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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:30 AM
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"Why can't 'you people' just Get Over It ?"
Probably the 5,000th caller today on Washington Journal said THAT again.

What so many people in the US do not understand is THIS..

We cannot "get over it" because IT'S NEVER OVER.

These are the same people who would never in a million years be able to "get over" a second Gore term.

That's exactly what we would be anticipating, had the election in 2k been fairly counted and evaluated.

Can anyone even imagine the hatred and rage that we would be experiencing had Clinton's vice-president succeeded him for 8 long years?

These snippy fast-with-the-catch-phrase folks have NO IDEA how lucky they all are, that we are SUCH "good sports".
Sure, we answer back with fact sheets and volumes of actual information when we are confronted with this simplistic query, and we may get into heated debates.. We may even march around, but at the end of the day, WE are the law-abiding citizens we have always been.

We are not the ones launching e-mail attacks to get people fired

We are not the ones flooding governmental agencies with AstroTurf nonsense in order to get laws changed.

We are not the ones skewing polls that make their way into the news media, in hopes of tricking casual viewers into thinking that the WHOLE country thinks like they do.

We are not the ones harassing our co-workers and taunting them for having empathy and social consciences.

We are not the ones who blithely choose leaders for amorphous reasons, such as "values"
(as in WHOSE values?..yours?, mine?, corporations?, Jesus'?, Mohammed's?, multi-divorced republicans'?, racists'?..)...

or "being a strong leader"..
(Manuel Noriega was a Strong leader..we even called him "StrongmanManuelNoriega"...Hitler was a strong leader...Mussolini was a strong leader... Jim Jones was a strong leader...
Being a strong leader is NOT a unique trait, and even though presidents SHOULD be strong leaders, the job entails so much more than strength.

Why can't we "just get over it?". We cannot do that because we have had all avenues of redress fully "detoured". Because of the stranglehold on media, and our LACK of egress, we are forced to TRY to air our feelings about what happened (to US and to the U.S.)is short bursts of rapid fire comments because that's all we get.

A terrible wrong was done to our country..to our democracy, and yet NO ONE to this date has "covered" this issue with the intensity it deserves.

We need a PUBLIC airing-out of all grievances, or they will continue to fester, and eventually real damage will be the result.

I explained it to my non-political friend this way:

Suppose that "a guy" raped your daughter, and you were forced to invite this person to Thanksgiving Dinner, make small talk with him, and every time you turned on the TV or picked up a newspaper, you were subjected to report after report on what a good person he was, what a stellar family-man he is, how Christian he is...and no one believes a word you say when you try to set the record straight..and when they DO listen, they just say "Well your daughter must be a slut, and probably seduced him".

THAT'S what it feels like, and that's WHY we just "can't get over it".


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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:34 AM
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1. Because "It" is the end of America's Democracy
and our founding documents require us, as citizens to fight.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:40 AM
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2. As if those assholes got over Clinton!
Not that we need to take any cues from them! :puke:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:41 AM
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3. there was a magnificant description here.....
Someone detailed what the "radical-left" really was, and why they should be glad that all here are really what used to be called "moderate/liberals"..

Gated communities and private police forces would be overrun.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:45 AM
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4. I'll get over it as soon as they get over the Clinton Blow Job.
:grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke:
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Suziq Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:53 AM
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5. I'll Get Over It . . .
when they stop blaming Clinton! :grr:

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laughing_dog Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:05 PM
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6. Getting over it is overrated
Forget getting over anything. This is nothing less than a survival struggle. The next time you hear about people going into the streets to protest...GO WITH THEM.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:10 PM
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7. Take solace
As a moderate Repub friend of mine (who didn't vote for Bush) said so succinctly:

"I never believed it when people would say the American people were stupid. Now, there's no question. By voting Bush in, they have demonstrated just how stupid they are."

Those who voted for Bush are generally an ignorant and know little of American history or of how the simplest aspects of politics work.

The job of president does entail more than strength (of which Bush showed how little he had when he ducked service in Vietnam). It entails wisdom, of which Bush has absolutely none.

Take heart. You are not like him. Keep fighting the good fight.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:15 PM
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8. I was listening to Neal Boortz today on the way to the store
A lady called in and said she didn't understand why people still have Kerry/Edwards bumperstickers on their cars. Than she said that the game is over and to get over it. Boortz replied that those drivers are the ones you should stay away from on the roads. Boy, would I love to punch that a**hole.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:31 PM
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9. Wouldn't it be great if they did stay away from us on the roads?
Yet another reason to keep my sticker on.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:33 PM
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10. Same reason I saw a "Reagan/Bush" bumper sticker in 1997...
...Some people just don't take them off.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:38 PM
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11. Exactly right, SoCalDem! I feel the very same way and it is frustrating
as all get-out that we are having a hard time getting our voices and facts to be heard by these imbeciles! Man, they make me mad!!!
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:45 PM
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12. I was rereading the Declaration of Independence....
something that I do regularly because I make my students read it every semester. Most of them have never read it before, sad that most 19 yr olds read it for the first time because an "old hippie" makes them read it. Sorry for the digression. :shrug:

Anyway, I found this section of the introduction particularly apt at this point in time:


--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


I'll get over it when king george is gone. :nuke:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:48 PM
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13. My response to them: "Kerry won. Deal with it."
If they can't face the truth, why should I listen to them? I'm not interested in being preached to by people who live by double standards.

The Cult of W deserves no respect.
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