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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:21 PM
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Christianity nearly destroyed
Small Town Elementary School Nearly Destroys Christianity

The evil secular pagans in charge of Lakehoma Elementary School in the center of Wiccan and Heathen worship, Mustang Oklahoma, nearly destroyed Christianity, the 2000 year old religion by removing portions of a 5th grade play that included a nativity scene and the song "Silent Night".

The complete dismantling of the billion member plus religion began when satanic Superintendent, Karl Springer and schoolboard attorneys, decided to remove the Christian references in the annual school play, elements which portrayed Christianity as the one true religion.

The Pope and Billy Graham could not be reached for comment (they were presumably in heavy prayer and meditation trying to save the religion and spare Mustang and the world the wrath of God...again).

There have been unconfirmed reports that the play did include witches, Jews, and black people (Kwaanza-ites) portrayed by fifth graders intent on turning their classmates into Godless Pagans.

Despite the fact that there will be hundreds of thousands of Christ oriented productions at churches, schools and community theaters across this nation in the next few weeks, this one incident shook the very foundations of Christianity to it's unstable core.

****Update******

Apparently, to save Christianity and Christmas, the song "Silent Night" was restored to the play. Christianity was saved once again by the grace of God and the fifth grade daughter of Shelley Lewallen.

Jerry Falwell is still praying for a plague or other Godly curse on the entire town of Mustang and all of it's non-Christian residents.

www.conservativefighter.blogspot.com
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:33 PM
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1. About time, say I
:toast: Go Pagans!
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:35 PM
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2. wow
thats all it takes to destroy christanity.I had no idea it was such a fragil religion.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:37 PM
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3. LOL!
:)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:39 PM
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4. Oh, it's horribly fragile!
Remember, anything that doesn't mention Jesus threatens to destroy him. Soap commercials, sitcoms, news programs, all must mention Jesus or he will simply cease to exist and his followers retreat into godless barbarism.

Kind of like Tinkerbell and the clapping...
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:06 PM
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14. Tinkerbell--yep that's exactly what I was thinking.

Was in the middle of typing that when I looked again and noticed you beat me to it.

HAHAHAHAH!! Tinkerbell. Jesus. The lost connection.

Man I can't peruse the magazine rack at the check out aisle without a dose of Jaysus on Time and Newsweek.
Puke.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:40 PM
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5. Glory be
It's all about saving those heathens from the Devil.

I hope Pat Robertson weighs in on this crisis soon. :eyes:

After all, the Rev. Graham is a Democrat!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:41 PM
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6. More for O'Really's talking points
in his never-ending series "Christmas under Attack". *yawn*
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:42 PM
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7. To read DU, you'd think Christians were the

source of all the world's problems.

We aren't.

Not even the fundamentalists, with whom I strongly disagree on many areas, are responsible for all the troubles in the world.


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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:48 PM
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10. I agree, and I would add - neither are Pagans!
Yet to listen to right-wing media and many so-called leaders of Christians, we Pagans and our cohorts in sin, who include everybody who doesn't belong to Jerry Falwell's church, are directly responsible for all the world's problems.

So it's just human nature to laugh at them in return now and then. No disrespect meant, just a little teasing back at them.
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Calvinist Basset Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:07 PM
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15. I'm one of those suspicious liberal Christian types.
Not liked or trusted by the gnostic-style Christians like Falwell, Robertson and such--and a quirky oddity to non-Christians.

"Silent Night" being in a school performance seems okay to me--but neither does its exclusion bother me. In fact, if the song is there, I guess my only feeling would be that representative music from various religious/cultural traditions should be included too.


From my Reformed heritage, I believe it is my Christian duty to be engaged with the socio-political culture. But that doesn't mean I should expect the culture to be moulded to my faith values. My conservative acquaintances seem completely befuddled by my perspective.

In any case, right-wing type Christians like to say that no one "comes to the Father" but through Christ, and that no one enters the Kingdom of Heaven without being born again. But the curious thing that always gets me--these passages in the Bible don't lay out prescriptive measures by which the *process* takes place. That is to say, Christ may be the way to the Father (which I do believe), but does one have to *believe* in Christ for that to happen? Of that I am not so convinced.

After all, Jesus said there are "many mansions" in heaven. As well, shortly after his comment about coming to the Father through him, he says: "I have sheep in other pastures that you do not know, and I will bring them to me as well."

Suffice it to say, if I believe I have the corner on truth, truth is very limited. God is so much bigger--and I think the world would be a better place if more people just recognized that fact instead of fighting for one another's preferred definition.

*sigh*
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:25 PM
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19. reminds me of a discussion
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 07:28 PM by m berst
Several seminary students were having a discussion when one of them posed the question "are more or less people going to heaven to today than in times past?" to which everyone answered "less" and cited the usual listing of signs of moral decline. The one who posed the question than said, "no, you are wrong. Many more are going to heaven today." When he was challenged on that he said "think of all of the poor peasants in Asia, Africa, and South America. Surely we have to believe that those blameless and suffering people are being welcomed into heaven by the millions, or our faith means nothing."


on edit - added quotation marks
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Calvinist Basset Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:34 AM
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31. that's a pretty good story
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:52 PM
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26. I don't have any problem with other people who

attempt to live relatively good lives, whether they're Pagan, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, or atheist, and I also know many Christians don't behave as they should.

I just don't have much patience with bigots of any stripe, and this seemed more bigotry than humor to me. When only certain groups are satirized, it's not really satire but bigotry.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:42 PM
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8. Too late........
Falwell and Robertson and the like have already destroyed Christianity for their own perverted purposes long ago.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:47 PM
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9. This is hilarious!
Yes, another persecution of Christians. I laugh all day, thinking about their persecution, as I drive past their gigunda empty churches and consider the homeless out in the cold.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:53 PM
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11. hmmm
"There have been unconfirmed reports that the play did include witches, Jews, and black people (Kwaanza-ites) portrayed by fifth graders intent on turning their classmates into Godless Pagans"

What kind of a Godless pagan do you think a Jew is anyway? Oh yeah, they worship God.

But this is more a thread for a bunch of bigots so I'll get off it. You guys really don't seem the type for correctness like what the heck Jews believe.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:59 PM
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12. S-A-T-I-R-E
Do you need a dictionary? :eyes:
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:05 PM
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13. While reading Christian's responses to this story
on a conservative website, many were upset that Judaism was included in the play and Christianity was minimized. It is many of the evangelical Christians who spew anti-Semitic comments. I was making fun of them, not you.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:11 PM
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16. really well done satire, by the way.
go Mortos! :D
:thumbsup:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:11 PM
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17. "A thousand points of light"
'"they" worship God.'????????????????????

Do you know any Jewish people? If you did, you might consider that the song Silent Night, in a school holiday production, would most definitely be a song in direct contradiction to their Jewish faith.

As a Jewish friend told me, "We believe in Jesus. We just don't believe he was the Messiah."

So, you see, the child taught at temple and at table that the Messiah is yet to come might have a little trouble wrapping her mind around Christ as the Messiah. Additionally, that child might be harrassed or intimidated by students who wholly believe the premise of "Silent Night" if she feels uncomfortable singing along. That would be a compromise to the child's faith, and..... persecution. So who is the bigot?

I think this is hilarious. Pseudo-Christians don't have much of a faith if it can be shattered so freakin' easily, that's all this is sayin.'
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:20 PM
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18. I have a Jew standing right here
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 07:21 PM by superconnected
He doesn't believe in Jesus as being the Messiah. He still believes in God.

Get a Bible, the Torah are the first 5 books. That's what Jews believe.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:50 PM
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30. Duh as in......duuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh
But, would your Jewish friend want his son or daughter singing "Silent Night" at a public school function?
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:34 PM
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20. Thanks for this...I needed a good laugh!!!
:wow:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:38 PM
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21. Don't get my hopes up with subject lines like that
:)
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:39 PM
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22. That is my elementary school, lol.
No joke.
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Esslinger Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:50 PM
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23. Where would we be without great blogs?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:50 PM
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24. Reads like something from the Lark or Ship of Fools etc
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:43 PM
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25. Sadly, it read to me like something typical at DU; a post

attacking Christianity. I thought it was a story that had been altered to satirize Christians' complaints about removing anything remotely connected to Christianity from the schools. . . while everyone celebrates how Atlanta schools now allow Muslim schoolchildren out of class to pray.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:02 PM
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27. i haven't heard about that case, but of course kids should be allowed to
pray if they choose to. 'kids praying' doesn't equal 'school establishing religion.'
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:48 AM
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33. I hate this whining...
The last time I had the audacity to where my pentagram outside my clothes outside, I had a baseball introduced to my face, so stop your fucking crying! Get perspective for crying out LOUD!
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:06 PM
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28. It might be satire, but I don't find it funny. And I love good satire.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 10:09 PM
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29. Hell of a deal.
They call that Christianity?
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:45 AM
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32. some responses to posts like this are good detectors
not gonna say what i think they detect, but the astute among you should get the hint . . .
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:53 AM
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34. Christian dectectors?
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 09:55 AM
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35. i will remain polite here
merry holidays!
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:00 AM
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36. Don't worry about politeness. I'm caffiene deprived. Hit me with it
I'm a big girl I can handle opinions.

I didn't think it was a particulary good satire, probably because people the satire is about embarass me as a Christian. If it weren't contradictory, I'd call myself a Christian Deist, except that I don't reject the Bible. I just don't interpret it literally.

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AliciaKeyedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:04 AM
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37. More anti-Christian flamebait
All I can say is, Merry Christmas to all.
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eugeneliberal Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:10 AM
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38. Dating to save people from hell
I don't yet have enough posts to post my own, but since this topic was about Christianity, I thought I'd add an interesting link to a site that my former sociology teacher found. Seems this woman is on a mission to save heathens from hell by using her beauty for God. Includes step-by-step tips for dating cute heathen guys.


http://www.datetosave.com/
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:12 AM
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39. Holy cow. LMAO.
Whoring for Jesus...somehow it just doesn't fit with my beliefs.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:14 AM
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41. jesus had a good friend who was a whore
. . . she even washed his feet for him.
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:15 AM
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43. Or, if you buy into the DaVinci Code, she was his wife
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 10:16 AM by Ms_Mary
The theory that that made Mary Magdalene into a whore to suppress women is intresting. I could see that happening. Christianity has been used for a lot of things.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:18 AM
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45. i don't buy much
but i've heard the davinci code is pretty much poppycock on a par with the celestine prophecies.

i could dig jesus a lot more if it turned out that he actually "had relations" with mary magdalene.

martin scorcese touched on this in the last temptation of christ.
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:34 AM
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46. I got that vibe about you
;)

The DaVinci Code was decent fiction. The theory behind it is interesting.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:13 AM
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40. THE WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHRISTMAS UNDER ATTACK!!!! NEXT ON FOX
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:14 AM
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42. I watched about 5 minutes of Fox once before yelling at the TV
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:16 AM
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44. CHRISTIANS UNDER ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
godless liberals want to kill jesus all over again . . . next on fox
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:36 AM
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47. What plagues are possible?
Too cold for grasshoppers.
Is this town near a river?
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:03 PM
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48. No river
but they do have a community swimming center. By the way the wiccan portion of the play seems to have been greatly exaggerated by the right wingers. There was no wicca or winter solstice celebration from what I have been able to ascertain. Now, I am offended.
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