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SavageWombat Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:17 PM
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What about retaking Congress?
What are our chances? What elections do we need to win to retake control of both houses? How long odds are we talking here?

As a side question - if our candidate won every single state possible - i.e. still in "play" - how much of the map would that give us? Enough to claim a decisive mandate, and/or a landslide, or just a continuance of the 50/50 politics we've been seeing? I've had it with the red states/blue states stuff.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:19 PM
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1. One possible way to do it is to harness the energy created by the
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 02:19 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
infrastructure Dean has created with his MEET-ups...this has brought many people together who otherwise would NOT have met...getting grass roots support for reclaiming congress and the senate is about the only way to compete with the ridiculous amount of money Bush is raising.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:42 PM
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3. On the local level, that is already building.
At our meetup Wednesday, Deanieboppers were being asked to volunteer as precinct committee people where the Dems didn't have them. Next will have to come getting Dem candidates to declare where none have yet done so. Then, walk the blocks and beat the Bushes.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:23 PM
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2. I don't know but without Congress we won't stand a chance no matter
who wins the Presidency. Congress can and will tie the hands of any President if he is of the opposition party.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:49 PM
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4. I think there may be more "in play" than the conventional wisdom indicates
Turnout is a major factor, and the Republicans are doing everything they can to make it seem like another four years of Chimpy is inevitable. It's up to us to get the word out that not only can he be beaten, but that it's crucial to the country's future to oust this gang of robber barons and put government back into service for people, instead of large corporations.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:53 PM
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5. For the two houses
The Senate is about a 45% chance of regaining control IMHO, but it would probably be only a 51 seat margin...not that much.

The House is out of reach UNLESS there is a wave, which I could see happening if dissatisfaction with the war and economy grows and engulfs the Repukes into a 1994-style defeat (just vice versa). This scenario would also give us a better margin in the Senate.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:58 PM
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6. What will Texas be like?
Did their "redistricting" go through? How many Dem seats stand to be lost? Will the redistircting take effect in 2004 or 2006? Will the court overturn it in time if it takes effect in 2004?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:03 PM
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8. Not yet
The state legislature stands adjourned until Dewhurst calls another special session. If a plan passes, it could zap at least 8 Dem seats.
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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:59 PM
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7. It's possible
It seems like the best democratic oppurtunities for pickups in the senate are in Illinois, Alaska, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Missouri and Kentucky. The most vulnerable demorcatic senate seats are in Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida, and South Dakota. Democrats would have a chance at pickups in Oklahoma and Iowa if the GOP incumbents retire and the republicans would have a chance if Breaux retires in Louisiana. It seems unlikely though that those senators will retire but they haven't announced yet. I think that we won't pick up control of the senate because Kentucky, Colorado and Missouri will be hard to take but we have a strong possibility of at least keeping it the same.

The House seems to be probably beyond our reach. Due to gerrymandering after the 2000 census there are very few swing seats. We have some oppurtunities in New Mexico, Arizona, Iowa, South Dakota, Florida, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Indiana, and Georgia but we would need to win virtually all of the very vulnerable republican districts in order to win control of the House. We also have to deal with texas redsitricting efforts and we also have vulnerable seats in Washington, Oregon, Texas, Kentucky, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota, Louisiana, and Kansas. There are obviously other states with potentially contested seats but we would really have to have a large sweep to take the House and that would have to mean a strong presidential run.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:05 PM
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9. Don't forget candidate recruitment
For instance Gerlach's seat in PA (mine) is competitive, but if we don't field a candidate, we can't win.
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