Bono:"I believe gw is a man of his word" just now on CNN

when people who are for global peace and such vouch for him. How can anyone of conscience believe that man?

and then out in 2005?

But then, rock stars, even those who do good works, are not famed for their common sense.

I'm glad I didn't hear that myself

I was just thinking the same thing

so true

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mw, too, but he uses it to his advantage and with a sense of humor.

and his pompous boring ass band highly over-rated...

...and his word is a LIE!

Listen to him speak and you will find out how he acts...like a complete fuck-up.

Can't believe I agreed with Cher's dork ex.

Dubya a "man of his word"? On what fucking planet is that?

I think his multi-coloured shades are melting his brain.

wont get a dime from Bush if he attacks him

Maybe we should suck too? Oh. Sorry, I meant "Suck up" to him.

Remember the Jesse Helms episodes? My father was in Helm's office a couple of months ago (don't ask) and the old fascist was just beaming over a photo of him with Bono.

Needless to say my father was sick.

Somehow I think you may be giving more credit than is due? There are other less totalitarian sources for African issues...

when he decided to be good friends with Jesse Helms.

I decided then and there, FUCK BONO!

Bono has to say these things so Bush will help him with Bonos current mission to get african nations debtless..

You know what Bono said after he had lunch with Bush?

he said to make his goal come true he would have lunch with the devil himself

I heard Joe Biden and Carl Levin say that Bush was an honorable man. They must be lying too.

and bono is lying when he says "bush is a man of his word"....

The ends do not justify the means.

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Bono isn't helping...

Bob Geldof didn't do any pandering.

In this case, he has an obligation not to be so machiavellian.

You won't see me buying any U2 albums...

on edit - corrected spelling.

got some significant 3rd world debt relief through his committee.

So, he could have remained enemies, or swallowed his pride and helped out some of the world's poor. I respect him for it.

the innocents slaughtered in Iraq, the soldiers, who are scared, starving, demoralized, desperate to see home and facing drastic cuts in their benefits and joblessness when they do come home.

If Bonehead is so flicking smart, let him clean up his own house. Ireland has plenty of schist to pick up; and that isn't even including Northern Ireland.

Did know Sonny's wife was named Bono

So you DID know!

now serving number #789.

I think he is so blinded by his desire to help Africans that he can't see through the bullshit. He doesn't realize that Bush KNEW it would get killed in Congress, which is why he faked it. He'll get it sooner or later.

I was very, VERY disappointed to hear him say that, but it helps to know that his friends tell him he's being duped, and that he looked like he felt like shit.

Bono is NOT an idiot, which is what makes this suck so much more (y'all who know me know how I adore him).
This REALLY makes me want Bush to be exposed for the piece of crap he is.

He was talking about AIDS. He would like Junior to actually divert some Halliburton bribery money to fighting AIDS in Africa.

When it comes to his promises about AIDS, Bono wants Junior to be a "man of his word." Thus, he said so. Not because he believes we should all blindly trust Dubya.

Bono might not be a perfect role model, but what else was he supposed to say? "Bush is a damned liar, who won't fund AIDS. So there!"

"Ends do not justify the means" etc. etc. - Look, I despise Bush. He's a criminal, an idiot, a racist, and a warmongering chickenshit. However, if anyone can push that POS into doing something marginally better than the Repub status quo, it is a good thing.

I don't think that lobbying Bush in one area means that anyone is a complete whore. If Bono was discussing the economy or education or war and said "Bush is a man of his word," then all the flames are more than justified.

But, Bono with Helms? - Indefensible.

The original post offered no context at all. :think:

if he wants anything from them

...democratic party representatives?

we can't get anything from them by not calling them fucknuts (when they in fact are) either.

but until there are any Americans willing to do that (especially the "opposition" party) why should Bono be held to a different standard?

Again, the man has to be diplomatic if he wants to get any money or support for his cause or causes.

And his band is totally overrated.

So there.

Hope you don't mind . . .

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isn't that money a LOAN with interest attached? Money that will go in the pockets of a major Bu$h contributor like Eli Lilly or Pfizer?

his words probably include every racist slur known to fratboys, threats to reporters (a Bush family trait, like Jeb to Trudeau) and lies to the American people and the global community. thats what you meant, right Bono? Im tickled to hear that comment second hand. Money sucking weasel.

dead rock star..how could anyone with a brain say that? if he`s that hard up for money i guess you call him a whore...

said about bush...

We'll have to see if he gets his hard earned money.

Please

I think Phil Hartman (as Frank Sinatra) said it best, "Why don't you go back to Dublin, and find a bottle to crawl into?"
Fuck Bono!

at Clear Channel and Cumulus.

to try to get more AIDS money from Bush. He does that with all world leaders. He opposed Bush on the Iraq war. However, his best of the 90s album sucked.

if he's saying that now. He should know it will be taken out of context and used to bolster the Bush image about the lies to start the Iraq war. If CNN had the interview on file and is showing it now, knowing it gives the wrong impression, then what does it say about them. (Rhetorical question, needless to say.)

He was on Newsnight w/Aaron Brown, but Daryn Kagan was subbing. The interview had been done (not aired) earlier in the day. To my knowledge, that's the only time it's aired.

The entire conversation was about the AIDS money. Not ONE WORD about Iraq or anything else. The man was AGAINST THE WAR and just raised some money for civilians affected by the war in Iraq.

I think people are going way overboard on this.

Nothing more, nothing less.

aids in Africa is from USA drug companies,,,and the new appointee of the head of aids in Africa is a eli lilly guy.

Can't say I am a fan -- but sounds like Bono is a crusader for a cause, and a valiant one, without a whole lot of sense for the bigger geo-political picture. May I speculate that he does not read the newspapers or have friends outside his passionate crusade to save the horrific suffering in Africa. He truly may feel that this crisis demands more attention that ANYTHING. Allow me to speculate further that he may have been taken in by the legendary "Bush charm" (shame on his parents for not seeing that he was properly innoculated against the empty promises of fascist bastards, and God bless my own Mummy for making sure I was.)

Ah yes, allow me to give remembrance to Mother Theresa, who is being seriously evaluated for sainthood by the Vatican, never an easy ride -- who was accused by some political writer of "cuddling up" to nasty dictators -- as if *she* took the time to look at suffering from the big geo-political picture and hobnobbed at cocktail parties with the hypocritical bastards who often run the countries in which she sent her missionaries. (Was it not (hiccup!) Hitchens who tried to crucify her? Pardon my lack of knowledge on who write the "smear" about her.)

Well, if I had Bono's ear today, I would suggest he come aboard DU and have a look round, and then go home and have another listen to Pete Townshend's "Won't Get Fooled Again", and see how he feels in the morning....

just like the rest of them rockstars whom fly around the world on gold amex..screw super models and have their heads shoved in loads of cocaine...shut the fuck up Bono..go back to your roots and try living on $250 a week in Dublin and then tell us "GW" is a man of honour...

He flies around and gets nominations for Nobel peace prizes
Takes pictures with Jesse Helms
Goes on walkabouts in Africa
And when the phoney had the opportunity to come out against the war,
he said,
"he is sincerely wrong"
He was talking about Tory Blur when asked as he ran to his car

Christian Rock by any other name

:mad:
The Dude really pisses me off

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until we know exactly what he said and in what context.

He's done a lot of good, particularly on third world debt issues, and should be given some slack until there is good evidence not to.

Think of the debt that could have been cleared if he had just pledged all the dough from the sale of Zooropa and he wouldn't have been hurt one tiny bit.

He's a whore, pure and simple.

and if we ever have a President of the United Countries of the World, I would vote for Bono.

He writes some of the heaviest lyrics ever written and every member of U2 are excellent musicians.

I have never seen a band that can energize an entire stadium full of people like they do. There is no rush I've ever experienced like thousands of people all singing the same words, sometimes so loud the band just quits playing and listens to the audience.

Jesus, you people need to relax.

I have been a fan of U2's music for years, however, it does not mean I think Bono has any credence when it comes to politics. He is a rock star and should not be given any more credibility on solving world political issues than a dog catcher. (no slam againist dog catchers).

Celebrities are way overrated in our culture and their are some people who think they can solve geo-polictical issues because they are so charismatic on television, movies or a stadium. WRONG! IMHO, I would rather listen to the opinions of an everyday joe than some overrated overproduced bilious balloon of hot air.

in the world.

What an asshole!

BTW, what have YOU done to try and decrease poverty and sickness in the world? Maybe you can give him some pointers.

or Woodstock. Oh well - those WERE the days...

I am a big fan of the Beatles as well and consider them to be musical geniuses. U2 IMO is probably comes the closest to being the next Beatles level of band.

And the Beatles couldn't energize a crowd like U2 can. I'm not just talking about a thousand screaming teenage girls here, they can get an ENTIRE stadium full of people on their feet, cheering, singing and moving to the music.

I have been attending concerts since the 60's and have never seen another band that can do that, bar none.

Bono has really been doing his part to blow the curve for Irish Protestants

He's getting that Wayne Newton look about him. Eeewwwww...

I didn't know Brilliantine was fashionable amongst crack whores, I mean rock stars. No disrespect to crack whores.

Befriending world leaders in order to get money to Africans with AIDS.

or

Sitting on your ass, filled with such hatred and so blind that you trash a decent human being who is on your side.

Yep, the founding fathers would be proud of DU's super patriots.

He is trying to be ambassador of the world; well, the world is in terrible conflict and it just can't be done.

Shrub's "pledge" of AIDS money was a sham; he KNEW Congress wouldn't approve it (even if shrub didn't, Rove did). If Bono couldn't see through that transparency, he is too flicking dumb to be shooting off his mouth.

Pay up or shut up, Bono, it's your responsibility as much as it is mine (that's my tax dollars, and we have virtually no health care for the working poor in the US).

The right wing aren't the only ones that have freepers I'm afraid.

Great. Another "nice guy" appeaser.

You can tell people aren't thinking rationally when they start trashing Sonny Bono without bothering to read who the thread is even about.

You mean Bono of U2, LOL.

That's exactly what this thread has become. A pile-on.

Simple pattern joke. Just a riff on the thread title.

How do you get that? The reference wasn't about Bono, Sonny, Mary or Chastity. It's all about Junior's veracity, not about who said anything about it.

Yeah, I call Bono an appeaser, but I'll stand by that here.

But I sure wish he'd try giving his personality a twist of Lennon's acerbic outspokeness.

what the hell does that mean? (I dont mean 86 43)

... "I expect gw to keep is word." I.e., Bono is trying to push Bush to keep his word on the $15B for Africa.

I don't think Bush will keep his, by the way, so Bono will later be saying "Bush is not a man of his word" if past "compassionate conservative" behavior from Bush is any guide. Bush is all lip service and photo ops. Then he actually does the opposite of what he says. He gets away with it because people don't pay any attention, for example, to things like education bills.

He's just damn pissed it wasn't his idea.

U2s music has sucked about that long too, the last album I bought was WAR.

U2's music has always been good - the new one was a fine return to the 80s, and their experimental phase was interesting.

If we are concerned about a rock star that might have any influence on the Amercian voting public - it would have to be Bruce.

He is on a stadium tour this summner and I hope he speaks up. Remember he backed the Dixie Chicks.

I like U2 and Bono generally but I think sometimes Bono's got to take those blue tinted sun glasses off and tell it like it is. Apparently he is trying to stay on *'s good side for the sake of aid to Africa.

If he really gives a damn about poor or sick people, he will choose his words more carefully. The Bush Admin. can do a lot of damage with a statement like this. Bush is just making political hay out of the AIDS issue to cover up for the multitude of horrible things he is doing to increase the suffering of people throughout the world.

I can't believe Bono is saying this after the whole Iraq war. I just wonder how this misadministration gets to people - makes them want to be conciliatory.

but he's become far less vocal about that since it doesn't seem to get him enough publicity.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Bono didn't "suck up to God" in the eighties. The man has been a serious Christian since the mid to late seventies. Does he have to behave exactly the same throughout his entire career, or else he 'wants publicity'? There are any number of songs about God on the last few albums, so I'm sure God still feels Bono's lips on his behind.

:eyes:

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

He's just a caterwauling twit

Bono's right. Bush and his word are one in the same.

People are taking this as an opportunity to slag Bono--without regard to context, and without regard to anything else.

People, the man was AGAINST THE WAR, and just recently raised a significant amount of money for Iraqi civilians affected by said war.
It is a disappointing statement, but geez!

As usual, DUers throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I can't believe some of the comments I read on this thread. Sure Bono's has made acquaintances with Helms and Bush. Just because Bono doesn't call them names in public or someone snapped a photo of them together does not mean they are friends or have any ideological common ground. I'm sure he's not exactly hanging out with them.

Who can forget his tour with Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill? If anyone watched some of the footage of that trip, you could see O'Neill evolving and probably experiencing some emotions and thoughts he never had before. Would it have been better for Bono's animosity toward these people prevented him from making this trip?

I think you can help people change their hearts and minds by setting an example of true kindness, generosity and compassion. When you meet hatred with hatred, all that you produce is more hatred. When I try to discuss liberal and progressive ideas with conservative friends and co-workers, I certainly don't go around spouting hatred for their ideas and way of life. Where would that get us?

As far as compromising and selling out, perhaps sometimes that is necessary. Sometimes ends do justify means, especially when it comes to helping others and I guess we just have to each decide where those lines are. Ideological purity is not practical in the complex society that we live.

Had he stood there and declared Bush to be a moron, what would it have accomplished? Bush would still be in office and those who need aid would receive none of it. You have seen what Bush has done to his enemies and those who cross him. He is a very vengeful person. He could try to bring down Bono's cause and good works.

Bono is appealing to Bush's higher self and playing a head game here. If Bush doesn't come through, that means he is not a man of his word.

Instead of bashing Bono, please take a minute to fill out this action form to:
"Let President Bush and your members of Congress know that you want them to fund fully the historic initiatives to help African countries fight AIDS, get out of debt, and build better futures for their families."

http://www.datadata.org/what.htm

While you're there, take a minute to check out the site. He is not just taking on AIDS. He is trying to increase attention on debt relief and trade.

I think we are MUCH better than the comments I saw on this thread. I would hate to see us become the polar opposite of Free Republic with an overwhelming hatred blinding our vision.

A person who reportedly has done a lot of work to help others, says one sentence that can be interpreted as something positive about Bush, and everyone is ready to condemn, dismiss and trash him as a human being, an artist, and a phil, a phil, a doer of good deeds.

I know Bush inspires rage, but come. Dixie Chicks say something bad about Bush, they're vilified by the right and we're outraged. How can you so easily take one quote and use it to do the very same thing?

Bono and the other members of U2 as well, have had a long history of activism and advocacy for worthwhile causes, including the one that influenced this comment.

They have worked extensively with Greenpeace, Amnesty International, and on and on and on.

But GOOD GOD! He says something about Bush because he's hoping to help Africans! Why don't we burn his cds while we're at it?

Or the whole "ZooTV" eXtravaganza:eyes:

My take on the tone of the thread? It took off late Friday night. Too much angst and :beer:

Maybe we should suck too? Oh. Sorry, I meant "Suck up" to him.

:shrug:

That was a sober comment.

Hey, at least I changed the original statement!

There are thosands of much better ways to keep the bridges open without propping up a wannabe dictator.

I still think it's a stupid assed comment to make.

As it stands, he can't go around insulting world leaders if he wants to keep avenues open to his causes.

Just don't kiss his ass.

Which is what, as reported here, he did.

and all this in response to a quote with absoluely NO context.

:shrug:

How do we know Bono wasn't being a smartass? Bush being a man of his word...the word being (take your pick): lies, death, destruction, hypocrisy, cronyism, more lies....

I DIDNT THINK SO! Why is Bono held to a different standard?

regarding world hunger and poverty. If only ONE of the
bozos with real money and power would do just HALF the
shit he's done to help REAL people then the world would
be just THAT much better.

It's easy to criticize. But stacking the good against
the bad, he's way ahead. It amazes me how fast people
jump on those who ACTUALLY TRY TO DO GOOD IN THE WORLD!!!

What has Henry done that matters to anyone but HIMSELF?!?!?!

RV, who has been a fan of U2 since 1980 because they
actually know how to THINK and care about something
besides using, abusing and dissing.

Just wondering.

Don't think that's gonna happen.

I was trying to imply that indeed he could be a man of his word (singlular - especially if that word was something like "idiot"). Sometimes my humor is a bit obscure.

...I suppose you ARE a man of your word, Shrub.

Listen, no one said Bono was a brain surgeon, OK?

He wants to make sure his pet projects are not ignored and stonewalled by the Bush administration. He's no longer an outsider, he's been rubbing elbows with the ruling class, supposedly to lessen the damage of corporate globalization. I'll give him a pass this time :)

He's against the kazaa people also, obviously bought in by the RIAA's decepton.

No more U2 for me. Probably get rid of my existing CDs as well.