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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:32 AM
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Internet Service Providers and big brother
From alt.politics NG regarding ISP's:

...a company which is legally bound by local telecommunications laws to
provide surveilence and copies of any communications of any customers which the government requests surveilence of. No warrent, no notice, no
acknowlegement, and no recourse."

So basically we are just fish out here.
What is the "work-around"?
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Dr Batsen D Belfry Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:38 AM
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1. No real alternatives
All roads lead to Rome

Many of the government's "new" programs are being run from the backbone down, which means no matter who you select, your email transmissions and web requests are subject to scrutiny/inspection at the topmost level of the internet.

If you really want to conduct a private conversation, you would wrap your own Public/Private Key system and exchange keys with friends using SneakerNet. Even that isn't guaranteed depending on which encryption scheme you use. I have no idea who has a backdoor to what anymore.

DBDB



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pnutchuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:43 AM
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2. Is that Billy Joel's lyrics in your sig line?
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Dr Batsen D Belfry Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:48 AM
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3. Phil Vasser
Dancing WIth Dreams, one of his lesser known works.

DBDB
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:54 AM
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4. VOIP for your phone
The feds can't tap it (yet).

Cable modem, voice over IP and you are protected for the time being.

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:29 AM
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5. Go back to the old ways...
leaving coded notes under rocks in the park, exchanging briefcases in secluded areas, pay phones... If you're really planning the revolution, better know how to keep under deep cover and set up anonymous cells.

Anyway, aren't we getting a bit paranoid? Granted they are trying to set up a good ol' Gestapo/Stasi network, but spam will probably bring them to their knees long before they mistakenly snare us simple opponents in their nets. Or actually catch someone for real.

It has been suggested that everyone include in every email, usenet message, webposting, etc. something like "I could kill for a President cigar today" just to fuck 'em up. ECHELON can keep buying supercomputers forever, but can they keep up with the traffic?




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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:02 PM
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6. Revolution plans itself.
Otherewise, yes. Good points.
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