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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:13 PM
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Bush* blames media for not showing the good things in Iraq
-snip<THE PRESIDENT: You know, polls change, Dave. Polls go up. Polls go down. I can understand why people -- they're looking on your TV screen and seeing indiscriminate bombing where thousands of innocent, or hundreds of innocent Iraqis are getting killed, and they're saying whether or not we're able to achieve the objective. What they don't see are the small businesses starting; 15 of the 18 provinces are relatively stable, where progress is being made; life is better now than it was under Saddam Hussein. And so there is -- there are very hopeful signs.

very hopeful signs. Tell that to the 70 people killed yesterday.




trascript@ www.whitehouse.gov:puke:
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:20 PM
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1. He admitted that thousands of innocent Iraqis are being killed.
That's unexpected.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:22 PM
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2. Yea, he then said hundreds, but you're right.
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:31 PM
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14. yes hundreds a day or something of that nature
KL
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:23 PM
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3. Rove's gonna take away his teddybear for a fortnight.
Won't happen again.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:46 PM
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12. Yes, I think it was one of those accidental slips of the truth.
They happen occasionally.

Wonder if the teddy bear removal will prevent a recurrence.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:29 PM
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4. Progress is people starting small businesses, very telling
He doesn't measure success by freedoms won, personal safety of the Iraqis, the conditions of the average Iraqi, the presence of true democracy, educational opportunities or other measures of societal advancement. His first measure is whether there is a marketplace where people are able to start a business and make money.

His religion is capitalism, and his politics are fascist because he represents government by corporation. The way he thinks about the world comes out in these small ways.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:29 PM
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5. The news shouldn't report the happy things.
As Bill Moyers said in his closing remarks on his last NOW episode:

"The news is what powerful people want to keep hidden."

Propaganda shows you what the powerful people want you to see (happy Iraq). Real news shows you what the powerful people don't want you to see (sad, destroyed, mangled Iraq). The media has a duty to show us the latter.

-Laelth
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:31 PM
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6. The same tired examples have been used as "good things"
How many times can you say that that a new fruit stand and coffee house opened up and the schools got a new coat of paint?

If he was so anxious to show us the good things, send his WH press gaggle over there to take pictures of all the peace and prosperity. Wonder if that fruit stand and coffee house and schools are still standing and doing business. Wonder if any of the WH press corp would make it back out in one piece.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:34 PM
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7. He'll probably "clarify" that remark later on, or say it was
one of those "exaggerations." I was surprised he slipped up and told even a tiny sliver of the truth, though I don't expect his followers to pick up on it.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:36 PM
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8. Their plan is to be out
by the end of next year. Presumably to go after the next "Axis of Evil" country.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:39 PM
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9. How can he be so dumb?
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 06:40 PM by DireStrike
they're looking on your TV screen and seeing indiscriminate bombing where thousands of innocent, or hundreds of innocent Iraqis are getting killed, and they're saying whether or not we're able to achieve the objective.

IS THERE SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN "INDISCRIMINATE BOMBING" KILLING HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF INNOCENTS?

I guess it's worse when you HAVE a target, like on 9/11, right guys?

9/11, 9/11, 9/11. We didn't hear about everything going right in this country, either. Oh wait, that's because the economy is FUCKING TANKING.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:15 PM
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15. He actually called it indiscriminate bombing.
He admits that we are bombing a country indiscriminately. We are a sorry fucking nation for allowing this man his position.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:41 PM
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10. OK Bush*, give the press free access to Dover AFB
and then show the press the good things happening in Iraq, and then we'll talk about polls! Oh, any good news coming from the US military hospitals in Germany?
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OETKB Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 06:45 PM
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11. Overworked
This constant appeal to the "good things in Iraq" is a major smoke screen. The examples given do not require a war to happen. In fact they are not possible unless there is peace. Afganistan just elected the president of Kabul, not of the whole country. It is a meaningless to profess democracy in a war zone. The right wing, as usual, is more interested in dirt rather than people. The 3 provinces which are not stable represent a sizable portion of the population and also deserve their political rights.

The reason there are no good things reported about the war in Iraq is because there are no good things to report.
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Smirking_Chimp Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 07:11 PM
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13. Translation-Sure my war killed a few hundred thousand innocents,
but someone is making money!!!

Pretty hard to start a small business when you see "indiscrinate bombing where thousands of innocent, or hundreds of innocent Iraqis are getting killed"

I'd like to know how many people actually live in the 15 out of 18 provinces, is this all desert area?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:33 PM
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16. indiscrinate bombings
The Twilight Zone. Is this not an admission of War Crimes?
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