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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:39 AM
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End of year review. Pick the low point for the media this year.
With so many it is hard to come up with just one.

But I pick the Dean "scream" as the very worst the media had to offer.
It is not that they covered it, but rather how they covered it. By not letting up for weeks on end they effectively ended his run for President.


I picked this over the huge mistakes by Dan Rather because he goofed and apologized when the time came. Unlike the media just not understanding how stupid they continued to look after the neverending Dean "scream" barrage.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:44 AM
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1. I know I'm being cynical here but I think it would be more of a contest
to try and pick a 'high point' for the American media machine. That just might not be possible (except for a few outlets, like the Crawford, Texas newspaper).
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:37 AM
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24. the NON-COVERAGE is their LOWEST misdeed/point in my book
the silence around 911, PNAC, EVOTING, TORTURE, CORP. CORRUPTION, PATRIOT ACT, DU, PREVENTIVE WAR, MASSIVE DEBT., is DEVASTATING.

more...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2867538&mesg_id=2867538&page=

peace
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:18 AM
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42. My newsmedia *high* point for 2004: Jon Stewart on Crossfire
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 05:20 AM by 0rganism
Some say Jon went overboard, or his ego was too big. I say those two-bit whores on CNN richly deserved every second of abuse they got, and much much more. I remember wishing the show could have gone on like that for two hours. Jon was the ghostly apparition of Rational Concern in a criminally senseless Theatre of the Absurd. My only regret was the lack of Bob Novak, who so desparately needs to be handed his head on prime-time television before his persona fades forever into the stagnant gray neverland of WorldNetDaily editorials and hardbound vanity books.

"I won't be your monkey"

That should be on a bumper sticker.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:45 AM
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2. The total non-coverage and outright derision of voter fraud
They not only didn't cover it properly, when they did rouse themselves to give it a few minutes - a la Jennings, they just poured derision on the whole idea.

:grr:
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:46 AM
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3. coverage of the swift boat liars for bush
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 10:53 AM by bowens43
They legitimized the lies of these traitorous bastards.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:48 AM
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4. 3-way tie - Judy Woofwoof, Candy Cowley, Leslie Blitzer
It's hard work picking just one. It's hard. It's hard work!
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:35 AM
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39. Everybody knows its hard work.
LOL
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:48 AM
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5. Swift Boats
At least Dean actually did the scream. The constant repetition was certainly overkill, but it wasn't a total invention of something that didn't happen.

The Swift Boat crap, on the other hand, was a boatload of lies served up to us a possible truth.

Ugh.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:56 AM
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10. I think Dean should scream again
Imagine the power he would gain and that the media would lose if he were to scream again in front of a roomfull of supporters. It would basically say, (I'm here, I'm screaming, I don't give a rat's what you think of me)

People would love him for it, and if the media tried to do the same thing to him agian, it just wouldn't work.

(Imagine if the media were to do the same thing to George Bush that it did to Dean? Yeah right)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:10 PM
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27. I could not agree more
I want that scream to be the rallying cry for the Dems. It would be so "in your face" as to be delicious.

With every Dem victory there would be a nationwide EEEEaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhhh.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:59 PM
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32. Absolutely
That would seriously be a standing ovation moment in a room full of DU'ers.

:)
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:40 AM
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25. You may have a point here. The liars made it up and the media ignored that
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:26 PM
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28. That was my pick. Those lying Swift Vets.
And how they were spread all over the media indiscriminately, when they were caught in tons of lies.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:49 AM
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6. It's a toss up for me too. . .
between the none stop coverage of the not so Swift Boater's BS, the lack of MSM coverage of blatant and widespread election fraud, and now that I think about it, no coverage of the internment and mistreatment of the protesters in NYC at the RNC.

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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:50 AM
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7. I happily abstain,
because I haven't watched nor heard those bastards since 2000. May they drown in their own sewage.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:51 AM
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8. Teatgate 2004: A Wardrobe Malfunction
The media's bizarre obsession over a fraction of a second of nipple exposure run amok.
http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/headlines_odd.jhtml?s=5

And in case you missed it, over 99.8% of the complaints to the FCC all came from one fundie group- The Parent's Television Council.
http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=freespace&Number=109890&page=19&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

The MSM has allowed this story to run amok and change the tone of the entire country around a non-issue, while stifling free speech. For example, many stations refused to broadcast "Saving Private Ryan" because of the atmosphere after Teatgate.

'Saving Private Ryan': A New Casualty of the Indecency War
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41464-2004Nov10.html


Teatgate Video:
http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.jhtml?reposid=/multimedia/tds/helms/helms_8095.html



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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:51 AM
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9. It was their worst year
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 10:53 AM by gorbal
At least in terms of cable, we got rid of it cause we were so sick of the barrage of endless bs.

I have trouble picking one low point, besides the Dean scream, failure to show what was happening during the war and endless kissing of the Bush administrations behind, I would have to say they dissapointed me the most when they didn't show enough of John Kerry's speeches and talk enough about where he stood on the issues. They really provided their viewers with a disservice when they would endlessly talk about Kerry, "not standing anywhere on the issues" (or something like) while in interviews it was quite clear he DID have a stance, (a much stronger stance than Mr Bush) they just elected not to educate the public about it.

I have been happy to note that all the awards John Stewart won and the fact that a recent poll showed that his viewers knew more about the issues than those who watched the regular news much have been a real stick in their eye. He and Oberman were the only reason we kept cable so long, I will miss him...(sniff)

:)
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:57 AM
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11. Reporters raising their hands
during that scripted, choreographed press conference as if they were vying for the prez's attention. And when bubblehead fucked up and blew the cover off the charade, none of them were embarassed or angry. Shameless grovelling useless gits...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:00 AM
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12. Elevating Swift Boat Vets/White House advisor, Ben Ginsberg..
to an election analyst on MSNBC. Could MSNBC have been more obvious? :puke:
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:02 AM
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13. The question you ask
Pick the low point for the media this year, only applies if the media were just incompetent. They may as well be paid with checks signed by Rove. This is not a media, rather a nasty cheer leading squad.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:03 AM
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14. Lack of true coverage of the situtation in Iraq n/t
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:07 AM
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15. fake documents...n/t
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:14 AM
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16. You are right, there are so many!
Here are my top ones: (not necessarily in order)


The complete lack of coverage of the ACLU accusation that Bush ok'd the torture of prisoners

Giving voice to the Swift Boat lies.

Covering *'s political speeches as presidential policy statements

Letting * dictate presidential press conferences (one question only)

Setting up values as the biggest difference for voters this year (a complete lie)

Not releasing the poll data after the election. Changing the poll data on air. (What are they hiding?)

Complete lack of coverage of dissent (The women's march this spring, the political conventions, etc.)

The continuation of soap opera coverage (Scott Peterson, the basketball game fight, etc.)

The continued downfall of investigative reporting - the continued reliance on newswires for on air or on net coverage.

I know I can come up with more, but this is just off the top of my head.

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KarenS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:15 AM
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17. I agree with all the above posts,,,,
from the Swift Boat Vets to Election Fraud,,,,, plus ol Novak (criminal) still spewing his garbage.

I haven't watched MSM coverage since November 3rd so my stuff is all before that,,,,,

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:17 AM
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18. It'd be far easier to pick a HIGH point for the media:
There IS none.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:20 AM
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19. Hell, I saw the Dean Scream on ESPN again last night
It was their Top 10 "Did They Really Say That" segment, and there it was, at number 3. Not a trace of self consciousness about using a sound clip that was as doctored as a pro wrestling match. Assholes.

But the lowest point for the media was probably the lack of presidential press conferences, and the choreographed pre-selected questions submitted by the Fourth Estate. A complete and total failure to do their jobs, all the while congratulating themselves for being, variously, fair and balanced, honest and integritous, or firstest with the mostest.

Jeez guys, people are dying in bunches over in Iraq; what's it take for you to quit scrutinizing Paris Hilton videos for a peek at her overrich vulva and start covering news that matters?
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:23 AM
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20. The media is no longer a viable instrument of truth and balance
so anything that they do is irrelevant to me except for its impact on millions of the gullible. However, I think the most disgraceful coverage was the 4 or 5 weeks of Swift Boat garbage at the same time the same media was going after Dan Rather instead of the actual story of Bush's absence from duty. A real life hero against a slimeball and gruess who wins with the media!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:26 AM
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21. the "Petersonification" of cable news

cable outlets who feel they must direct the collective outrage (and morbid curiousity) of the masses rather than report real NEWS
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:27 AM
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22. 1. Dean Scream 2. Swift Boat vets 3. Scott Peterson
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:32 AM
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23. I picked that, too
In actuality, probably the most important low point is the utter silence on the likely theft of another election. Even if Asswipe did win, there are so many important questions that aren't being asked. That's the real atrocity.

But for sheer, laughable, if-I-put-this-in-a-book-no-one-would-believe-it idiocy, it would have to be the coverage of the scream.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 11:52 AM
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26. Whenever people watch TV news.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:47 PM
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29. i pick
the 2 solid weeks of the ray gun funeral - it so gagged me
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:58 PM
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31. swift boat liars
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:09 PM
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33. Drumming up the war. Judith Miller & the likes.
Ironically, W later said economy was doing bad because they drummed up the war. No one protested.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:20 PM
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34. Dean scream
Followed closely by the swifties.
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Rockerdem Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:28 AM
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37. You nailed it
Dean was just being encouraging in a noisy environment, yet the media distorted the scene. If ever context was needed, this was the case. Shame on them for artificially impacting the outcome of a serious election, and eliminating the only anti-war choice. In retrospect, I wish that Kerry would have straightened them out within the first hours. It would have been an act of political altruism that would have drawn centrist Americans to both him and our party.

CNN and PBS were right there with the rest of them. Sad. So sad.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:42 PM
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35. wow, this is tough...
But their post-election coverage is possibly more nauseating than before the election - like, trying to convince us that the chimp has a 'mandate', that the country is entirely composed of fundamentalist Christians, that Kerry voters somehow lack in 'values', that the Democratic party is dead...blah blah blah.
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fishingriver Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:18 AM
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36. The Day Bush and Cheney Met With 911 Commission
This was by far the most pitiful display of journalistic cowardice in American history. Reporters were not allowed into the joint appearance by Cheney and Bush. They allowed no notes to be taken or recordings to be made. Cheney and Bush refused to take an oath. After this meeting when the president emerged tand gave the eager press corps a statement. "I answered all their questions" Bush said of the inquiry. The headlines read....."Bush answers all questions". They allowed Bush who closed them out to be his own witness. The white house screwed the press into the ground and the press not only gave Bush a pass but turned the story into an example of the president cooperating with the 911 investigators.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:46 AM
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40. Hear hear. 9/11 remains white washed, Operation Global Lynching marches on
The entire 9/11 Ommission Panel hearings were a sham.

No one is touching the fact that the CIA and NORAD were doing a live fly exercise 'simulating' multiple hijacked planes crashing into buildings as 'the real thing' was happening.

http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html
(Operation Vigilant Warrior)
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 12:33 AM
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38. Yep.
When I read the title, the Dean scream specifically and the media as the tool of the 'power' that ended the candidacy of Dean, man of the people. Candy Crowley stood outside of Dean head quarters after it was over and said, "We did this."

She was right.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 04:22 AM
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41. Substituting sensationalism for journalism.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:34 AM
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43. That's like finding the deepest point in the Mariana Trench
Sure, you can find the exceptionally low regions, like Challenger Deep/Fox News, but there's always going to be a lower low. And just when you think you've found it, some journalistic deep-ocean diver shows up with a shovel.

It's a target-rich environment. I will have to settle for five.

1) Swift Boat Vets Special on Sinclair
2) Complicit disavowal of the administration's responsibity for the Abu Ghraib (Bucca, X-Ray, et al) tortures
3) Disproportionate coverage of the Jackson family and the Peterson trial, deliberately obscuring real national interest stories
4) Treatment of all disparate viewpoints as equal, with zero regard for factual support
5) After all this, having the gall to deny the UCC access to advertising time on the basis of "controversial content"

It's just another glorious day for the Media Whores!
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:26 AM
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44. Reporting on the Ukraine election fraud
while ig-damn-NORING the fraud that took place in the United States. How come it was real OVER THERE and "conspiracy theory" OVER HERE????

:argh:
dbt
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