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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 02:58 PM
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On Monday, will our world be different?
I cant help but sit here and be confused by the news on the public standard public media channels and what one can get on the internet. We have scientists talking about changes in the earth's orbit. What I fear is a massive casualty event in Andaman and Northern Sumetra, death tool 11500 and rising. If you look at the number of earth quakes that have happened in the last 72 hours and their longitudinal pattern from 92 to 95 degrees one has to question aftershocks being to blame. There have been deaths reported in 6 countries. The moon is in apogee and many have noted that the sun seems to be moving on the horizon. Major weather system blows through many continents simultaneously .. 100 mph winds in denver and alberta, ca.. latter kills snowboarder. Storm hits Germany with 105 mph winds. A tornado in Austraila. Severe storms in Finland leave post with out power.

I could really go on and on. Rummy makes a verbal snafu, Israel threatens Iran some more.. we install bunker buster carrying bases in South Korea.

When will I stop hearing about christmas shopping.. dessert plates.. wayward kids and fathers selling presents on ebay? What about Yukos and new terrorist attacks?

The world seems very eerie to me right now.

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MissBrooks Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:00 PM
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1. good point...
Let's see what happenes when we start hearing the real news again.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:05 PM
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2. What Do You Mean About The Sun?
moving on the horizon?
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idiosyncratic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:15 PM
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7. In an article I read, it said the "rotation of the earth" affected
There was that huge earthquake in Antartica a few days ago, now this one.

I've never worried about earthquakes, but I do live in California.

:scared:
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:27 PM
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10. Well..
I'll decline to post on it till a credible news source identifies it. Till now its been alot of scientific ramblings. I'm almost saturated on everything at this point but I do know that several readings of the sun set post Dec 21st have been a bit odd.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:05 PM
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3. Just a typical day in my neighborhood.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:24 PM
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9. Welcome to DU!!! Nice avatar. Day of the dead, how appropriate.
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:12 PM
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4. Wow... I have been away from the Internet and the "media" for about 48
hours so I am a little confused by the post. You have peaked my interest. I will do more research. thank you.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:12 PM
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5. Can you elaborate on the earth orbit thing? Seems like I may have
missed that one myself.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:29 PM
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11. I think it's this: "the quake even disturbed the Earth's rotation."
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 03:30 PM by Minstrel Boy
An AP story:

"All the planet is vibrating" from the quake, said Enzo Boschi, the head of Italy's National Geophysics Institute. Speaking on SKY TG24 TV, Boschi said the quake even disturbed the Earth's rotation.

The U.S. Geological Survey (news - web sites) measured the quake at a magnitude of 8.9. Geophysicist Julie Martinez said it was the world's fifth-largest since 1900 and the largest since a 9.2 temblor hit Prince William Sound Alaska in 1964.

Initial damage centered in the Indonesian province of Aceh on northern Sumatra. Dozens of buildings were destroyed, but as elsewhere, much of the death toll appeared to come from onrushing floodwaters.

Towns nearest the epicenter were leveled by tidal waves. An Associated Press reporter saw bodies wedged in trees as the waters receded. More bodies littered the beaches.



http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=516&u=/ap/20041226/ap_on_re_as/indonesia_earthquake_23&printer=1
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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:13 PM
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6. Maybe the world will be different Tuesday,
the day after tomorrow...

What's this about the sun seeming to be moving on the horizon?!? Could that be shifting light reflections caused by the weather?

As for the wind, it seems to be that the years are getting steadily windier, at least in some areas. Windy days in Iowa are not rare, but 100 mph is quite a bit of wind... I would say that even gusts that are that high are not that common, for Iowa...
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:22 PM
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8. I'm waiting for this to happen:
And on that day
The sun shall rise
In western skies
The Prophet did receive
And all men
Seeing
Will believe....


part of a poem by Murshid S.A.M. I think.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:39 PM
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12. That’s great, it starts with an earthquake...
...birds and snakes, an aeroplane and Lenny Bruce is not afraid

Expect more severe weather.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:45 PM
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13. How can we say what's severe
when humans have only been around for a fraction of a second in geologic time and have only recorded the severity for a fraction of that?

Sort of like calling what voting habits are normal after performing exit polls for 30 seconds before the polls close.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:50 PM
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15. Well, we do the best with what we have.
I find it interesting that the big quake hit the Andaman islands. I wonder what, possibly, the oldest identified race of people think of the current weather.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:46 PM
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14. Here is a link to some of the latest weather stuff compiled by..
whatdoesitmean.com

I've never seen the site before, so I cant attest to its authenticity.. the links however are very interesting.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index20.htm
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:55 PM
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16. WTF?! I heard of a big earthquake this morning, but nothing else.
Shifting orbit?! Sun seems to be in its typical place for this time during the day.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 03:55 PM
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17. To anyone who's been paying attention...things *are* getting very weird
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 03:56 PM by mcscajun
indeed.

I keep collecting bits and pieces of environmental and climate news. Here's another one to add to the current mix:

National Geographic, December 2002

Scientists have identified a few suspects behind the Earth's sudden weight gain around the Equator: glacial melt and shifting ocean mass.

(snip)

The research helps resolve the conundrum of why, after decades of doing just the opposite, five years ago Earth's gravity field started getting fatter at the Equator and flatter at the poles.

(snip)

Christopher Cox and Benjamin Chao, research scientists at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, reported in the August 2 issue of Science that the Earth's girth is bulging at a rate of one millimeter (.04 inch) per year, a subtle rate of change.

(snip)

Dickey's team concluded that rapid melting of the Earth's glaciers coupled with a dramatic redistribution of ocean mass is causing Earth's bulging girth.



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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 04:06 PM
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18. Sudden, freakish hurricane-force winds in Paris, Tokyo, Austria
Paris

Dec 17

A freak hurricane-force wind has struck the French capital Paris and much of the country's north, killing at least six people, say the emergency services. Tens of thousands of homes have been left without electricity.

The storm hit Paris without warning and lasted only a few minutes, but caused havoc there and across the north.

The storm caused delays at airports in Paris and brought some train services to a halt. The Eiffel Tower, parks and other outdoor facilities were closed.

The gusts of up to 130 km/h (80 mph) prompted the French national weather service, Meteo France, to issue its second-highest alert and warning against people using their cars, says the AFP news agency.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4106569.stm

Tokyo

Dec 6

Seventeen typhoons in one season followed by earthquake after earthquake has caused frightened Japanese to drive up the price of gold because they are buying it against hard times ahead.
Now more extreme weather has struck the island nation, bringing gale force winds and a sudden extreme temperature increase that is unprecedented in the climatic history of the country. At 11:29 AM yesterday, the temperature in Tokyo rose to 77 degrees Fahrenheit from 38 degrees in just a few minutes, breaking a record for sudden temperature rise in the city set in 1923.

90 MPH gales were registered in central Tokyo earlier in the morning, marking the highest wind speeds ever recorded there.
http://www.story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/japan_weather_wind

Austria

Nov 20

Several fatal accidents were reported, including a collision of two minivans that killed a 32-year-old man and injured two young children, Austrian television said.

Police said several hundred cars spun out of control and ended up stuck in snowbanks along the highway, where visibility was poor as gusts exceeding 100km/h blew snow into the air. Many of the stranded cars had not been fitted with snow tyres, authorities said.
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1624296,00.html

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Forced Into Exile Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 04:11 PM
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19. Are we ready for another "POLE SHIFT"?
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 04:18 PM by Forced Into Exile
Ever read "Earth in Upheaval" or "Worlds in Collision". That is collision, no collusion, I am not talking politics here.

The planet has gone through MAJOR cataclisms throught history, what's to say more are not possible?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:01 PM
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23. Hi Forced Into Exile!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:01 PM
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20. Wind storms not new to Germany
Forget the exact year I was there when a massive wind storm blew down approx 70,000,000 trees. Must of been 90 or 91.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:27 PM
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21. How about this one, Channeled Scablands
Early man was around to record this event that must have been amazing
http://www.kidscosmos.org/kid-stuff/kids-canyons-scablands.html
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:40 PM
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22. Thanks, I enjoyed that
And just think I was pissed off that the storm I mentioned above messed up all of my dog walking routes.
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:27 AM
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24. 25k dead
And climbing.

Reciprocal faults are gurgling. Nor Cal had a 4.3..

Not completely different, but Im still curious as to what the coming days will bring.
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