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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:21 PM
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Iraqi oil is paying for nothing because little of it getting to market

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200501/s1275405.htm


Insurgent attacks on Iraq's vital oil industry have cost the country nearly $US8 billion in lost export revenue since March 2003, Oil Minister Thamer Ghadban said on Sunday.

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"Exports are now limited only to the south, there are no exports in the north," he added.

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Mr Ghadban said attacks continued over the weekend, with a pipeline transporting crude from the oilfields of Kirkuk in northern Iraq to the Baiji refinery bombed and a power plant in Mussayab, south of the capital, also attacked.
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I can't blame the Iraqi people for not wanting the bushgang to steal their oil. more power to them.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:24 PM
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1. Why should their oil pay for the damage we have done? NT
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:59 PM
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4. it shouldn't, I'm with you - but it was a smirk selling-war point
nt
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Grip Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:33 PM
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2. Stealing the oil?
The "insurgents" are Vandals and nothing more.

Imagine you are the average Iraqi.

Now, everyday, one of these brave insurgent freedom fighters are cutting the power or the water. They are blowing up people (some of them are in your family) on the way to work. They are causing fuel shortages and preventing the rebuilding of your once great nation.

Yes, war sucks. The US has made mistakes. But, let's not portray the 'insurgents' as some sort of noble freedom fighter. The people responsible for the terrorism in Iraq are former Bathist and members of Al Queda. They can only offer the life of living under Saddam or the Taliban and little else.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 12:57 PM
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3. my dear Grip, you have drank the Kool Aid


invasion does more than "suck"
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Grip Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:06 PM
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5. Actually it was Gatorade
I am a vet. How about you?

How many people have tried to kill you in your lifetime?:hi:
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:10 PM
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6. I'm a woman, women are at risk 24/7. what says vet can't drink Kool Aid?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:00 PM
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7. Yes, the insurgents may very well all be vandals. But Bush is
is one, as well. The oil belongs to the Iraqi people. A pox anyone who attempts to steal it.

As for the troops Bush and the neocons are using as pawns for their rape of the planet, BRING THEM HOME!
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Jesus H. Christ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:06 PM
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8. If I were an average Iraqi...
I'd hate the United States and root for the insurgency.

Why? Are you an American that supports foreign invasions? Did you support 9-11?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:13 PM
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9. "Insurgents" are protecting their families and their land from corporate
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 02:14 PM by shance
interests that are using my country and my people to kill innocent men and women on both sides of the equation and steal their oil.

This isn't about America or liberating Iraq, this is about using our good name, wrapping it in the marketing of "patriotism" so a select few can hijack Iraqs oil and their land.

When other countries do this we call them aggressive and hostile governments, but when we do it we call it "liberation"? The technical term for that is bullshit.

That is the reality of what is happening in Iraq. I hope you will be able to dispel the stories you have been told. Its important you do because you are not benefitting from this. And if for whatever reason you think we should grab a little piece of a pie we have no business grabbing, keep in mind you won't profit a dime from it either.

But other much wealthier people who dont need the money will undoubtedly profit. The others who have sent our sons and daughters over there to be put in harms way stand to make a mint. Yes, such people will use your name and your children in order to reach their profit goals and margins, but you will never see a cent of it. In fact, just go to the gas pumps. Its a little high isnt it? They are gouging us as well.

I hope one day individuals like you will understand that its the truth that will empower you, not believing the lies they tell you so they can profit. Americans need to understand they are being used.

Because deny the realities surrounding us makes everyone in this country very vulnerable and certainly doesnt help you one bit.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:27 PM
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10. Let's see, replace a few words here and there in your post,
And you would sound just like an upstanding, upper-class British citizen speaking about those nasty, criminal colonists.

Get a clue friend, we INVADED A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY! And for no good reason. These people are fighting back anyway they can. Since they don't have the money for tanks and planes, they use what is available.

These folks aren't vandals, they're not insurgents, they're your average Iraqi, wanting to rid themselves of an occupier who has hounded their country for the past fourteen years, who in that timespan killed six hundred thousand of your fellow citizens. I'm sure that if the US was ever again faced with such an invasion, lots of us would be out blowing up pipelines and otherwise damaging the infrastructure.

What you want these people to roll over for us, and trust that we will do what is best for them:eyes: Gee I think is a little late for building that kind of trust, what with Abu Graib and all.

You state that the insurgents can only offer life under the Taliban or Saddam, well gee, look what the US is offering. Endless death and destruction, looting of their national treasures and resources, the status of a second class citizen in their own country, yes, we offer these things and more. No wonder many if not most Iraqis are working as hard as they can to rid Iraq of the US.
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