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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 01:54 AM
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The Freepers are going wild over a WP article on *'s Speech
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 02:03 AM by caledesi
Here's the article: *'S SWAN SONG????

In Speech, Bush to Ask Americans and Allies for Teamwork on Iraq

<WHAT ALLIES? LOL!>

link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36362-2003Sep6.html

Check out what the freepers are saying:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/977488/posts

very juicy and some just plain hilarious! They are finally realizing what a f*cking mess Iraq is. Duh!

samples:

I have a feeling this speech will not go over well with many freepers. I do not like the 'put the disagreements behind' posturing crap.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

"Bush does not plan to announce the discovery of any nuclear, chemical or biological weapons in Iraq, his staff said."

Will he even mention the status of WMD? We are owed at least that!

----------------------------------------------------------------------why do they release the text of these speeches in advance, don't they know the media will just edit and cut it up and trash it before he actually delivers it?

edit: usual stuff


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:09 AM
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1. Thanks for the laugh
This is hilarious, they are truly in PANIC MODE now... that the failures of King George the Lesser are becoming painfully clear.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:15 AM
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2. Is it juicy or what? I could "dish" all day of this one.
They have been SO SO blind...and now they finally have to face up to the mess in Iraq.

I think one of the funniest comments was

<snip>
Don't go begging to the french. The President has no right to have our country humiliated like this.
<snip>

Humiliate us? * has humiliated France (Freedom Fries), Germany..and this Freeper is concerned about us being humiliated.

This is SO great. They are all wearing egg on their faces.

Some of them actually thought he was going to announce the WMD find.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:18 AM
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3. I would like to be gleeful
. . . but Bush's decisions and policies have meant little but tragedy for the country and the world from day one. The sooner the Freepers start to wake up, the better. Perhaps some day they will join us . . .
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:02 AM
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23. I cannot be gleeful either
the price being paid by this incompetence is breathtaking. And I am reminded it is my beloved country Dubya is making a fool out of. Gawd I feel sick.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 06:59 AM
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33. and the world...
will live as one.


Well, we can dream can't we?
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OldEuropean Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:24 AM
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4. I wonder
what the Freepers would say about this article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1033904,00.html

;-)
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:31 AM
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6. You would get booted for posting that article OE.
Besides that...they consider The Guardian akin to The Village Voice. LOL!
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:34 AM
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7. Oh, that article. It's good, but I thought maybe you were linking to
this:
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html

Title: The War on Terror is Bogus
by a Labour MP

The US has already protested. Hope it blows up in Bush*'s face just before his speech. (Maybe it was timed to do just that?)

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:51 AM
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12. OMG! I see what you mean...PNAC!
Wouldn't all of our fine citizens who aren't junkies like us be interested in reading about PNAC. Now that's an education!
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 03:22 AM
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17. Here's the quotation about the US response to that article
<<The US government last night expressed abhorrence at Mr Meacher's views. An embassy spokesman in London said: "Mr Meacher's fantastic allegations - especially his assertion that the US government knowingly stood by while terrorists killed some 3,000 innocents in New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia - would be monstrous, and monstrously offensive, if they came from someone serious or credible.

"My nation remains grateful for the steadfast friendship of the British people and Her Majesty's government as we face, together, the serious challenges that have arisen since September 11 2001."

Downing Street also distanced itself from the views of an MP who only a few months ago was in the government. "The prime minister has responded to those who argue it was about oil," a spokeswoman said, adding that oil profits from Iraq are to be fed back into the country's development.

Former ministers such as Robin Cook and Clare Short have criticised the British government for misleading the public over the reasons for going to war. But Mr Meacher has gone much further in his analysis of US and British motives.>>

This article links from the same page as the link above to the explosive article.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:31 AM
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5. This is where the "impossible" starts happening
Just like his father, Bush is going to start losing his base because he's not conservative enough. Going to the UN is a major sign of weakness, especially after the Right's strutting about Freedom Fries and other BS.

MAJOR Loss of Face....MAJOR.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:43 AM
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8. MAJOR! MAJOR! <he's only speaking for 15 minutes>
Doesn't THAT tell you something?

This is *'s Swan Song...I swear.

Let the real questions begin.

Now, even Freepers have to face the truth about "their" guy and his cabal.

Will Rummy resign? You know...to spend more time w/ his family.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:43 AM
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9. This is one of the Freepers' finest right here:
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 02:47 AM by KeepItReal
"What's very worrisome is that having miscalculated on what's required for the reconstruction of Iraq and having failed to discover WMDs, which is bad enough, the administration then compounds the error by going begging to the french as a solution. Does anyone really think that the french would say that all is forgiven and they're ready to play ball now? This is crazy. It's clear that the President is being badly advised. "

on edit: I stopped too soon. Here's a real gem:

"if he goes on TV and grovels for the U.N. help, you can say hello to President Dean."


Dare I dream!?


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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:47 AM
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11. Oh yeah, KIR...
This Freeper must be crying in his beer right now. Notice though how s/he still protects * by saying "the President is being badly advised." Uh, yeah he was, BUT he IS the pResident and must take responsibility for this debacle.

* is toast.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:53 AM
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14. "must take responsibility"?
I would probably seek psychiactric help if Bush & Co. took personal responsibility for *anything* negative that took place on their watch.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 03:24 AM
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18. KIR - yes, the best line was "say hello to President Dean"
Being a Dean supporter, I loved that one.


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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 03:29 AM
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19. Those freepers know how to make a Dean-o-crat's day, huh?
:-)



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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 03:35 AM
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20. Yeah, can't wait for Dean to call * on his lies from the speech!

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:05 AM
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25. I'd get help too
I'd know I was halucinating, hearing voices.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:06 AM
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26. come on...
submit to the will of Dean. everyone's doin' it.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 03:18 AM
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16. badly advised
Considering he ran on his advisors making up for his incompetence (well, not wexactly how they worded it), getting and following bad advice is inherently his fault and if anything justifies him being booted handily in 04.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 03:58 AM
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22. LBJ was badly advised, too, but he knew he was toast

when he looked out his window and saw thousands of anti-war protesters.

Someone made the arrogant decision to "protect" Junior from seeing protesters by herding protesters into fenced areas out of sight of his motorcades. Someone even more arrogant christened these fenced areas "First Amendment Zones" or "Free Speech Areas," adding insult to injury and showing their ignorance of Americans' Constitutional right to dissent. Do the freepers even know this? The American media has largely kept it secret. Would they consent to be caged out of sight of a Democratic president when they had a grievance they wanted to protest?

Too bad, by the way, that that "someone" wasn't in Florida to stop the "Republican riot" of Washington GOP pols' staffers demonstrating to intimidate those who were performing a lawful recount. Believing the lie that these were Florida citizens protesting (and no doubt fearing more protesters would arrive -- remember, the Bushistas spread a lie that a mob of "angry Cubans" was on its way), the election officials stopped the recount. That was a travesty that will go down in American history.

Bush* ignored hundreds of thousands of protesters, with a lot of help from the media, just as Louis XIV ignored the anger and dissent that became the French Revolution and sent Louis to the guillotine. Those cheese-eating surrender monkeys took a stand for democracy!

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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:05 AM
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29. This is a great post!
:yourock:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:48 AM
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31. Thank you, alphafemale. I appreciate your saying that.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:09 AM
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34. like the old days
where the king was always an alright guy but it was his evil advisors. These people live in a different century.

Julie
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:52 AM
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13. I can only wish!
I'm on my knees, hands raised to the sky, begging to God, "Let it be so!"
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 03:55 AM
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21. For...love your avatar. Old enough to remember Shirley.

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:04 AM
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24. It was wild, being able to choose between Shirley Chisolm &

Eugene McCarthy in the first presidential primary I voted in. I voted for Gene because as a woman I knew there was no way in hell that a woman would win, no matter what her skin color. Years later I read that Shirley herself had said she had experienced more discrimination during her lifetime due to her sex than to her color.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:08 AM
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27. Me too. One of my girlhood heroines, she was.
Is she still around?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:45 AM
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10. D'oh!
.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 03:10 AM
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15. Please Mr. President, don't grovel to the cheese eating surrender monkeys.
chuckle, chuckle
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 04:49 AM
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28. Speech will be total bullshit
Sacrifice. Hit that one earlier. WE need to sacrifice, not the people who got the tax cuts, not the corporations getting fat off this war. WE DO.

These are not attacks on the US, they're on the world, even the UN. The UN must make itself 'relevant' by confronting the threat. Or some such bullshit. France and Germany must finally recognize the real threat in Iraq.

Because of the terrorists. Bla bla bla.

Stock up on Tylenol and Pepto, we're gonna need it.
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Kat 333 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:24 AM
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30. omg
"The senior administration official said Bush plans to argue "that a free, stable and democratic Iraq in the center of the Middle East will be a serious blow to hateful ideologies of terror." "

ROFLOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep ... those "hateful ideologies of terror" rear their ugly head again.

You go George - make that "beautiful mind" of mummy dearest Proud !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 06:55 AM
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32. Has *'s ratings ever went down after a speech?
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 07:47 AM by coda
Not that I'm aware of.

Though the cabal's screw-ups are myriad nearly across the board, Herr Rove still has a good eye for what appeals to the LCD.

I wouldn't pre-judge this thing too much based on this or any other story and I doubt Karl is sweating bullets over it. *'s polls are dropping and he's been giving hints through Powell and others, of backing away from rigid unilateralism. It's simply time for a speech. I think it's obvious that he'll (appear to) soften his position on UN involvement and they'll want to frame it as though it's coming from a position of strength rather than its obvious weakness.


It's not a press conference for God's sake. :-)

*'s going to give an extremely vetted, very well rehearsed speech.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:12 AM
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35. Yep, he's going to be rehearsing all day
And look for that slow-motion delivery that reveals he's on major tranquilizers to calm his nerves.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:11 AM
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36. My favorite remark
"This article says that Bush is not giving any major concessions to the EuroVermin."

Nice to see stupidity is alive and well over there.....
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