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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 10:53 AM Original message |
"Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven" |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. Was he forgiven in advance? |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
95. Only if he first filled the S&H Green stamp book |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. I Can't Say What I'm Thinking |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. I like the one ... |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. Good Lord. |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. ?..what is the purpose of this post..to show that not everyone who claims |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Welcome to DU RUDUing2! |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. So Anyone Who Posts A Story That Isn't Flattering Of Christians... |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. nope..only those that do so in this manner. |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I agree |
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greyfox (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
58. Amen to that! |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
74. Well... That's ONE Way Of Looking At It. |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. My "motives" were to report a news story that... |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. there is more of a problem w/pedophilia in the schools.. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. You don't really get it, do you? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. so why not word the header..another pedophile uses religion as a cover... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. You STILL missed the point. |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. actually you can...*true* christians are known by their acts not by their |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. You are *so close*... |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. not exactly...but that is one way to spin it... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Doesn't matter. |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. There are two sources they must answer to |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
96. On the same logic: "Another person so fucked up by the practice |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Welcome to DU, and stick around |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I'm curious |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Tumbleweeds are rolling....... |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Because no matter what the "motive" |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Perhaps the flame-fests are self fulfilling prophecies? |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Wasn't a "warning" post... |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Why should it be respected out of common courtesy? |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I agree that there should be criticism |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. The opposite could also be said |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
86. No one is expected to respect a god |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #86 |
101. Fine. The white flag is waving on this subject for me. |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
5. Does being forgiven... |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. And That's Why I Distrust Businesses... |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. why? because pedophiles use religion among other things (m |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I Was Referring To The "I'll Always Be Forgiven No Matter What I Do" |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I will admit this is a hot button topic for me for two reasons.. |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. Well, it's a "hot button issue", as you put it, for others as well |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. many? really when less then 2% of all priest have committed a |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Source? |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I'm curious as well |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. see below..listed several sources. |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. That we know of |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Unfortunately |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Exactly my point |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #44 |
71. When it comes to a sexually-abusing priest, ONE is too many. |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
98. Well, not my hubby - |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. You got numbers supporting that |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. a couple of links for you... |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Did you read anything I posted? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. the opposite is true..the catholic church kept excellent records which is |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I'm sorry, but my personal experience tells me otherwise |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. you seem to be confused...nobody has said that abuse hasn't happened |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. No, I am not confused |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. I can support Susang's claim |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. not an accurate record of the abuses..but an accurate record of |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. So what exactly is our disagreement |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. "Human" feelings do not lead one to abuse the young or vulnerable |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Oh so those are not humans |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Responding.... |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 08:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I knew you would take this route |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Did you? You can read my mind? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Who's reading who's mind |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 08:52 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Not so. We disagree about the impetus for abuse. |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
103. Wanted to be fair |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Thanks for the info |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
81. Abuse in the schools is a terrible thing. But abuse by a priest is |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Actually, very few Christians have this mindset |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Oh? Really? Hmmm. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Catholics, for one, don't |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. I think you misread the post |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. I was referring to the post below that which doubted that |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I think he was doubting the subject line of that post. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. Yes. That Is What I Meant. |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. i love businesses who display that little fish |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
82. You Make A Compelling Argument... |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. This is false |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. There Was a Sleazeball-hypocrite Employee with a Bible |
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bobd (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. Christians Aren't Perfect - They Just Act That Way |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
27. A reason for such things (and it doesn't blame the religion itself) |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I'm Bookmarking That! |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
84. Sexual predators are not simply "attracted" to others, esp. the young |
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patcox2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. Isn't this spam, posting again and again after getting locked? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Getting dizzy |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Yes! I Opened Five New Windows... |
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wildwww2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
37. They can forgive all they want. I`ll never trust a Christian again ever. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
107. gee are all muslims terrorists for you? |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-05 04:43 AM Response to Reply #37 |
108. Interesting combination, there... |
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gordianot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
41. Situational ethics, Moral Relativist the bane of all fundamentalist. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
66. sickening |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. it is in the laws hands..the FBI's. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Good |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #78 |
93. I would hope so as well... |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. That is exactly what the comment meant |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
68. this isn't Christian bashing |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. And Bingo Was His Name-O! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
72. Ergo, it doesn't matter what they do. They're forgiven. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-05 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
91. God may forgive them but I don't |
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LDS Jock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
94. how many times can one thread be moved to a different forum? |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
97. however.. we all are, too |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
99. I hate hate hate hate that saying. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Why? |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. It makes it sound as if no one else is forgiven, that's why. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. That's not the way I see it |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-05 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
100. Yeah, "forgiven," so they aren't responsible or accountable for anything. |
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