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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:46 PM
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holy shit! worldlink is showing
the afgan massarce film! unfucking believable..remember the contianers of prisoners? it`s alot worse than you could ever imagine....
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:46 PM
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1. link?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:46 PM
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2. URL please
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:59 PM
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3. the program was "spot light"
check the website for the next showing..<http://www.worldlinktv.org> look for "afgan massarce",there is live streaming for high speed and dial up...
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 10:03 PM
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4. Don't miss this movie
War crimes by any other name are still WAR CRIMES. It runs about 45-50 minutes.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 10:05 PM
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5. I just posted on this as well .. here is from my post ...
http://www.worldlinktv.org/programming/programDescription.php4?code=massacre

<snip>
In November, 2001, during the U.S. campaign in Afghanistan, thousands of Taliban prisoners were killed while traveling in sealed containers on their way from Kunduz to a prison at Sheberghan. The bodies of the dead and some who survived were then buried in a mass grave at nearby Dasht-i-Leile. U.S. special forces were closely involved and in charge at the time. Were they involved in a war crime? The Pentagon denies the events. The eyewitnesses tell what happened.
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World LINK TV/Dish Satellite
Broadcast Times
Monday, September 8 4:00 AM
Monday, September 8 10:00 AM


Documentary alleges U.S. complicity in Afghan massacre
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/4799415.htm

<snip>
A controversial documentary film, which aired in full for the first time last week on German television, charges that U.S. soldiers were complicit in the mass killing and burial of thousands of Afghan prisoners of war more than a year ago.

``Afghan Massacre: The Convoy of Death,'' directed by former BBC producer and Scottish filmmaker Jamie Doran, presents harrowing footage of human bones protruding from desert mass graves and interviews with eyewitnesses who say the mass killing and summary executions were committed under the watch of U.S. forces.
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Afghan massacre haunts Pentagon
By Luke Harding in Dasht-i-Leili
September 14, 2002
The Guardian
http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/WarOnTerror/Massacre.asp

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A confidential UN memo obtained by Newsweek concluded that there was enough evidence to justify a "fully-fledged criminal investigation". But earlier this week Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN special envoy, said the government was too fragile to investigate further. "Politics is the art of the possible," he said.

The Pentagon has so far declined to answer several tricky questions, among them, were US soldiers present when the containers were first opened at Shiberghan prison?

US intelligence officers spent weeks interrogating Taliban and al-Qaida suspects at the jail, and in time removed 114 prisoners from their cramped, lice-ridden cells to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where they remain without charge.

But the same soldiers appear to have no knowledge of the mass grave just down the road.
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Bush's Afghan Massacre
by Ted Rall January 29, 2003
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/afghan/2003/0204mass.htm

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"There has been a cover-up by the Pentagon," says Scottish director Jamie Doran, a former producer for the BBC. "They're hiding behind a wall of secrecy, hoping this story will go away--but it won't." Indeed, "Massacre" has already been shown on German television and to several European parliaments. The United Nations has promised an investigation. But thanks to a virtual media blackout, few Americans are aware that, on the eve of another war, their nation's reputation as a bastion of human rights is rapidly dissipating.
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More links are available from the original site...no words here.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 10:10 PM
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6. movies here
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 10:15 PM
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7. Downloadable (not just streaming) quicktime here
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 10:17 PM by Wonk
99 M version 53 M version

on edit: dutchdemocrat beat me to it :hi:
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:44 AM
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8. Very, very powerful film
I saw it in Skokie, IL a couple of weeks ago. It is powerful and disturbing. There was a discussion afterward with John Hefferman, Media Relations Rep for Physicians for Human Rights, the group that discovered the mass graves in northern Afghanistan. He was actually there - an eyewittness report.

Here are links to ACFTV's website and ordering page. The price for the video is in pounds. I just wrote to them to ask how much in American dollars and how to order.

http://www.acftv.com/

http://www.acftv.com/products.asp?catid=5
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:53 AM
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10. For anything such as this...
... with ordering information in another currency, you can order directly with a credit card. The amount paid will be shown in the other currency and in the conversion to US dollars.

You can get up-to-date currency conversions here:

http://www.travlang.com/money/

Usually, the card issuer tacks on a 1-1.5% fee for currency exchange. Depends on the card issuer.

Don't let foreign currency stop you from ordering the film, though. It's horrible, but necessary viewing if you want to know the difference between what you're being told and what really happened.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:48 AM
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9. I saw it before I left the states
yes, it appears to be evidence of 'War Crimes'

Watch it if you can...
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