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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:19 AM
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I can't believe this is my country. Why are funddies anti-gay when our
military might be trying so hard to produce more homosexuals? This truly outrageous! I hope it was a joke.

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0002/20050117/0723527570.htm
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:31 AM
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1. That wasn't a joke.
Hard to believe, isn't it? But not a joke.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:43 AM
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2. This was on the BBC site
Saturday...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4174519.stm

Really unbelievable, eh? :eyes:
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jfalchion Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 08:49 AM
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3. This might be the agent
Impotence Drug Takes on Viagra 
By Kristen Philipkoski






Story location: http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,59273,00.html




02:00 AM Jun. 17, 2003 PT



Carl Spana could almost be talking about a miracle plant food -- or perhaps floor wax -- when he discusses his company's erectile dysfunction drug.



"It produces a very high-quality erection," said Spana, president and CEO of Palatin Technologies, in a recent interview.







Despite his matter-of-fact tone, Spana is aware that his drug is designed to treat the vagaries of sexual dysfunction, and therefore must be tested in a real-life setting, not just in the lab. The company is recruiting patients for a study that will examine PT-141's effectiveness in real-life sexual encounters. Patients will report on their experiences by answering questionnaires similar to those used to evaluate Viagra, the only erection drug approved in the United States.




"This is the first time we're looking at patients in their homes when they're engaging (in) sexual interactions," Spana said.




He hopes the drug, now called PT-141, will give Viagra a run for its money. It differs from Viagra in many ways -- for one, it's administered as a nasal spray rather than in pill form.




PT-141 has cleared the first phase of clinical trials necessary for Food and Drug Administration approval. In those studies, researchers found that the drug helped male patients achieve their ultimate goal: blood flow to the penis resulting in a sustained erection. In fact, when measured using a device called a RigiScan, the erections lasted up to three hours.




Palatin researchers found that many patients who didn't achieve an erection taking Viagra did succeed with PT-141.




They also found the drug seemed to help patients overcome performance anxiety because, unlike Viagra, it works with or without visual or tactile stimulation.




The potential market for new drugs that treat sexual dysfunction appears promising. Up to 30 million men suffer from erectile dysfunction in the United States, but only 8 million take Viagra, according to a review of erectile dysfunction therapies published in the September 2002 issue of Nature Reviews Drug Discovery.




So even with two Viagra-like drugs coming down the pike by the end of this year -- Levitra from Bayer and Cialis from Eli Lilly -- Spana believes there's room in the marketplace for more treatments.




"This is sex, and at the end of the day, people have different sexual preferences," Spana said. "It's a quality-of-life issue, and people like choice."




Ching-Shwun Lin, an associate professor of urology at the University of California at San Francisco, agrees with Spana about the potential for more treatments, but he is taking a different approach to the problem.




Lin is studying the genes involved in erectile dysfunction in hopes of finding a way to manipulate them in order to prevent the condition. He has filed for patent protection on his work.




"We are working on the cure rather than a temporary treatment," he said.




Meanwhile, other researchers studying treatments for sexual dysfunction see opportunities in products designed for a different audience: women.




Such treatments have been slow to hit the market, in part because sexual responsiveness in women is more difficult to measure, researchers say.




Whereas the sexual arousal of men is clearly shown by an erection, women's sexual arousal requires increased blood flow to the vagina as well as lubrication and a desire for sex.




While it seems likely that drugs like PT-141 can increase the amount of blood sent to the vaginal area, it's not necessarily true that such a treatment would increase a woman's sexual satisfaction.




"Things are always somewhat murky in women," Spana said. "The drug has to work for both desire and arousal problems, whereas men normally have a libido."




Palatin researchers will test PT-141 in women later this year, he said.




The drug, which is administered nasally because researchers found it worked best that way, is safe for people who take nitrates for heart conditions.




That fact sets it apart from Viagra, which can cause life-threatening hypotension (extremely low blood pressure) when taken with nitrates. And since Cialis and Levitra work by the same mechanism as Viagra, they will likely be dangerous in combination with nitrates as well, researchers say.




Viagra, Cialis and Levitra all work in essentially the same way, by blocking a molecule called a PDE5 inhibitor. PDE5 is essentially the molecule that prevents a man from getting an erection every time he sees a Victoria's Secret catalog. The drugs block that inhibitor, making an erection possible when combined with arousing images or touching a sexual partner.




PT-141 has a different biological effect. Instead of blocking the PDE5 inhibitor, it causes a cascade of events that leads to an erection: It stimulates nerves that release molecules that cause the penis to become engorged with blood. They're the same nerves that are activated by natural sexual arousal.




"We're doing pharmacologically with a drug what the nerves normally do," Spana said.




Side effects observed in about 10 percent of patients were face flush and mild nausea, which thankfully occurred about four hours after taking the drug.
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jfalchion Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:13 AM
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4. This stuff is amazing
http://pt141.com/pt141women.html

Source: Observer
Date: 29 September 2002

Nasal spray for women who are sniffy about sex
Robin McKie, science editor

It is the seducer's ultimate dream: a potion that will turn a woman's cold indifference into warm sexual interest. Sound improbable? Not any more. Scientists last week revealed they had successfully tested a nasal spray, PT-141, that sent 'healthy, normal women' into states of high sexual arousal.

'The crucial point about PT-141 is that it directly targets the brain's arousal centre,' said Dr Carl Spana, president of Palatin Technologies, of New Jersey. Originally uncovered through tests on rats, the drug aroused female rodents 'so quickly they started mounting males', added Spana.

Now the company hopes to market PT-141 for humans in two or three years though Spana stressed Palatin's main target was people with sexual problems: men with impotence and women with low arousal.

Given that more than 40 per cent of women suffer from 'female sexual dysfunction' - they are interested in sex but cannot reach climax - this still gives PT-141 a massive market while at the same time providing hope for a lot of unsatisfied men.

The drug could even prove to be more popular than Viagra which works by directly stimulating blood flow in sexual organs. But for many women, it is lack of libido - not physiological difficulties - that causes them problems. By contrast, PT-141 targets the brain's arousal centre and looks more likely to defrost sexual interest, says Palatin.

This point was underlined last week when Professor Raymond Rosen of New Jersey's University of Medicine and Dentistry revealed results of the first human trials of PT-141. Sixteen healthy women were given the drug and 16 were given a placebo. All were shown erotic videos, while detectors measured blood flow in their vaginas.

The women given placebos hardly reacted while those on PT-141 had pronounced increases in blood flow - results that demonstrate the drug has potential that goes well beyond its use only as a medical aid, though Spana counselled caution. 'The drug can only be administered as a nasal spray - which isn't good for seducers. You can't put it in a drink and sticking it up a girl's nose is hard to do surreptitiously, after all.

'On the other hand, related compounds could easily be made into pills one day, though I still don't think they will turn on a woman who was previously totally uninterested in a man or in having sex. She has to be halfway there already.'
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:15 AM
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5. Produce them on the enemy's side, not ours. Not just an enemy, but a
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 09:16 AM by HypnoToad
sausage snorkeling one. It makes killing FUN, and not just a job.

Edit: Grammar
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:25 AM
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6. Yeah, but like every other health hazard we produce, drugs, alcohol,
cigarettes, fast food, wars, it will come back to haunt us.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:26 AM
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7. So why haven't the right wing pundits been outraged by this?
someone please post this on the Free Republic board. They really need to know about this.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 09:30 AM
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8. Obviously they would think it's hilarious.
Look at Abu Ghraib! Freepers got a big kick out of that.

They love the idea of sexually controlling other people.

Let's just say they have issues.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:39 AM
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9. I'm trying to picture the funding request. Nope, can't do it.
What was said to justify taking the cost of about an hour of the Iraq occupation and puttig into this crap?
Something like this:
"The conclusion is inescapable--the greatest asset of the US's probable enemies is that they don't like sex, or at least, don't like sex enough. It seems that most young men of military age around the world are following near-monastic celebacy.

"This is a huge advantage over the American military, which, as you can attest, is full of horn dogs and party animals who can't wait to build a butt-crack pyramid."

This experiment is strange and perverse on so many levels.

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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:39 AM
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10. self delete
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 10:40 AM by Inland
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