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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:12 PM
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WTF is Cheney doing talking about evil and the reign of Hitler?
Hitler is one thing. Evil is another. To me, Cheney is as evil as everyone else. Same coin. Just the other side. Fascism is fascism, regardless of which religion it tries to hide behind.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:16 PM
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1. Cheney is talking about what he knows.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:17 PM
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2. Cheney is simply reminiscing
about the "Good Old Days."
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:17 PM
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3. Cheney's just jealous.
He knows he was born too late to suit the full extent of his bloodlust. Cheney's cold, calculated bullshit matches his cold, calculated policy decisions.

100,000 dead innocent Iraqis don't lie. Cheney is no different than Hitler.

Oh, except he's probably going to get away with it.

:grr:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:20 PM
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7. That's what I thought when I saw the clip from his speech there
You can almost see the jealousy on his face with each word. He was just born too late and on the wrong piece of land. Lucky us. :(
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:18 PM
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4. Cheney's ideological heroes loved Hitler...
He "made the trains run on time..."

Chenney is what scum would look like if scum was evil...
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:36 PM
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13. It was the fascist Mussolini who supposedly made the trains run on time...
...not Hitler.

But it's not even true for Mussolini.

http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.htm
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:19 PM
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5. Cheney's an expert on evil. Can't compare him to Field Marshall Goering
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 10:19 PM by oasis
because chickenhawk Dick dodged military service.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:20 PM
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6. Cheney dreams about Hitler every night
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:51 PM
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18. Probably sleeps on Hitler sheets in his undisclosed location n/t
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:21 PM
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8. Hilarious. Cheney knows how that speech was being taken
by every person there and a whole bunch of thinking Americans, and didn't give a shit. That's the big advantage of being a truly evil old man. No sense of shame.
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:26 PM
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9. Common RW tactic: Innoculation.
By talking about Hitler, he preempts comparisons of * and himself to Adolf and Co. After all, if people bring that up it's just because he did first and isn't that silly boy these lefties have no imagination they just mindlessly parrot what they hear without any real understanding or originality blah blah blah...........
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:31 PM
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10. Hitler.
Hitler killed millions of people in a campaign of extermination and got millions more killed in history's most horrific war. That is evil. Cheney is not evil, and even if you thought he was evil, he clearly is not anywhere near as evil as Hitler, or even Stalin for that matter.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:36 PM
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11. Nice picture.
I wonder what 100,000 dead Iraqi men, women and children would look like in a tableau shot?

Cheney is evil.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:38 PM
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14. Haven't seen any pictures of that.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:38 PM
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15. Google search...
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:36 PM
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12. Dick Cheney's French connection to Facism....
<snip>

Dick Cheney Has a French
Connection—To Fascism
by Jeffrey Steinberg, Tony Papert, and Barbara Boyd
EIR's ongoing investigation into the "Straussian cabal" in and around the Bush Administration, which is behind the ongoing "American Empire" drive, has unearthed a major scandal, linking some of the leading players in the current drama to a notorious network of World War II and postwar outright Nazi collaborators. The central figure in the investigation is the life-long collaborator of neo-conservative "godfather" Leo Strauss—the Paris-based Russian emigré, Alexandre Kojève.

Strauss and Kojève first met in Germany in 1928, and throughout Strauss's subsequent career in the United States—at the New School for Social Research, the University of Chicago, and St. John's College—Strauss funneled his leading disciples to Paris, to study under Kojève. Thus, for example, Strauss's top protégé and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz' teacher, the late Allan Bloom, made annual pilgrimages to Paris, from 1953 up until Kojève's death in 1968, to immerse himself in Kojève's Nietzschean fascist beliefs.

Although he taught for six years at the Sorbonne's École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) on the German philosopher G.W.F. Hegel, Kojève's post-World War II nest was the French Economics Ministry, where he was an architect of the European Community. His informal seminars at his ministry office, however, were the finishing school for several generations of avowed American and European "Straussians," including Francis Fukuyama, the author of The End of History and the New Man, a Kojèvian diatribe, promoting Napoleon Bonaparte as the hero of modern history for having brought about the advent of a global one-world tyranny.

<more>

<link> http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3018cheney_fr_conx.html
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:40 PM
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16. And Gonzoles as Bush's Nazi lawyer.....
<snip>

Alberto Gonzales: Bush's 'Nazi Lawyer'
by Edward Spannaus

Much can, and will, be said, during the upcoming Senate confirmation hearings for the post of Attorney General, about Alberto Gonzales's promotion of indefinite detentions and torture of prisoners, and his dismissal of the Geneva Conventions, while he served as Counsel to President George W. Bush, as well as his dishonest and unethical facilitation of executions when he was serving as counsel to then-Gov. George W. Bush in Texas.

But in and of themselves, these charges against Gonzales miss the larger point: his obsequious willingness, even eagerness, to provide President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney with a legal rationalization for the untrammelled exercise of executive powers and the egregious abuse of those powers.

While Gonzales was certainly not an originator of any of these doctrines, he has faithfully put his imprimatur on, and then forwarded to the President, the sophistic legal arguments coming from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC), and also from Cheney's legal counsel, David Addington—asserting that the President, in exercising his "inherent powers" as Commander-in-Chief, could lawfully ignore the Judiciary and the Congress, as well as international treaties and agreements to which the United States is a party.

<more>

<link> http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2005/3201gonzales.html
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:43 PM
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17. And this piece by Dr. Federico Fasano Mertens of Uruguay...
<snip>

From Hitler to Bush
Original article by Dr. Federico Fasano Mertens, editor of La República del Uruguay: http://www.diariolarepublica.com/2003/3marzo/especiales/separata_20030330.htm


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Reply from the editor of La República del Uruguay to the US ambassador there, Martin Silverstein, who complained about the comparisons the newspaper had drawn between Hitler and Bush.

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A few days ago I received a letter from Martin Silverstein, the US ambassador to Uruguay, accusing La República, a publication which I am honoured to edit, of "totally lacking any sense of journalistic integrity" by comparing George Bush, the president of his country, to Adolf Hitler, the chancellor of the Third Reich.

I have been unable to reply to him any sooner because the act of piracy which his country has committed, attacking a defenceless and close to disarmed country with the most formidable killing machine that the history of the world has ever known, has forced me to devote more than the usual amount of time to publishing special editions on the slaughter. I also found myself taken up by trying to convict US-trained uniformed torturers who had slandered me, a task which I have only recently been able to bring to completion.

Not long ago, when the ambassador visited me in my office, I remember saying to my colleagues that he was the most intelligent, perceptive and witty American ambassador I had ever met. "At last," I said, "a representative from the empire with whom you can exchange ideas, without being poisoned by the same tired, old clichés whenever you attend a meeting." <more>

<link> http://www.amics21.com/911/fasano.html
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