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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:32 PM
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Do they have free elections in Saudi Arabia?
...just curious. And weren't most of the 9-11 hijackers supposedly from there?....just curious
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:34 PM
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1. It's a kingdom, I doubt they have elections for anything
14 of the 19 hijackers were from there. that's 74%

but somehow that's OK :shrug:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:37 PM
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2. KING Abduhlla, PRINCE Bandar
somehow they seem like they need invaded and toppled, but instead, we're in Iraq.
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:37 PM
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3.  You're not suggesting...
that our friend and strategic ally - Saudi Arabia - is an OUTPOST OF TYRANNY, are you? What about the wonderful, productive friendship between the House of Bush and the House of Saud?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:38 PM
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4. Of course they have elections, all our allies have elections.
Pakistan too. They have them all the time, every day in fact.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:41 PM
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5. LMFAO, mo!
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 12:45 PM by BlueEyedSon
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headin_south Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:44 PM
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6. King Abdullah
you know, i just saw king abdullah on cnn and he was talking about democratic change and how he'd welcome it...if it was stable and progressive...thought that was hedging your bets a little! :D
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TR Fan Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:09 PM
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10. Did Fadh die or abdicate?
Unless he did, officially, it's still Crown Prince Abdullah, Minister of the National Guard, and King Fadh (his older brother). Since succession is from brother to brother, the next in line after Abdullah is Prince Sultan, Minister of the Air Force, and, like Fadh, and notably unlike Abdullah, one of the "Suderi Seven," brothers of a single mother.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:45 PM
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7. 80-100 public BEHEADINGS a year,
is what they have in Saudi Arabia.

pnorman
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:47 PM
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8. how barbaric, why don't we regime change their asses?
those who behead people are really nasty and subhuman,....i thought.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:01 PM
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11. we might as well invadeTexas too
shocking people with electricity or injecting them with poison is pretty barbaric. I think Utah or someplace still uses a firing squad.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:00 PM
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9. If I'm not mistaken
SA started having elections within the last two years for lower level offices. Can't touch the king and his court though.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:32 PM
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14. Women can not vote either
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dutchdoctor Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:21 PM
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12. they are about to have municipal elections in a few weeks..
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 02:22 PM by dutchdoctor
for the first time in 40 years, seebbcnews
Women will not be allowed to vote..
Can't wait for the U.S. to bring freedom to that country!

edited to fix the link
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:35 PM
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15. We have! With our sweetheart oil deal, they are free to fund terrorists
whenever and however they want...Dubya will even send his own family lawyer to defend them against those nasty 9-11 victims family members.
They are free to continue oppressing women and anyone who is not adhering to strict Sharia law.
Ain't freedom grand? This is the vision Shrub has for Amerikkka
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dutchdoctor Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:03 PM
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16. great isn't it....
Did you know that converting from Islam to another religon will get you beheaded in Saudi Arabia?
With allies like this who needs enemies?
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TO Kid Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:27 PM
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13. Well, "freer" than Cuba's elections
But not by much. On the "better than Cuba" side they have more than one candidate on the ballot, but women aren't allowed to vote. Like Cuba, the elected officials have no real authority so the results are pretty meaningless.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:03 PM
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17. SA leadership has US military training its guards
to protect them against the population; it doesn't look like the people there like the leadership a lot.


As documented in
"The iron Triangle", a documentary exposing the Carlyle Group
http://www.vpro.nl/programma/tegenlicht/afleveringen/11838857/
(mostly english subtitles)

also see
Riyadh suicide bombings target Vinnell

"President Bush characterized the May 12 suicide bombing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, as being carried out by "killers whose only faith is hate."; In fact, the devastating attack was a calculated, political act that was probably not orchestrated by al Qaeda and not directed primarily against the United States.
...
Both the recent bombings and the 1995 attack were made against the same target. This was the Vinnell Corp., a Fairfax, Va., company recently acquired by Northrop-Grumman that trains the 80,000 member Saudi Arabian National Guard under the supervision of the U.S. Army."

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/weekly_2003/saudi_bombing_vinnell_corporation.html
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:15 PM
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18. Saudis have "paid their dues" to the Bush crime family........
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 03:16 PM by ProudToBeBlueInRhody
....they are given a pass on slaughtering 3,000 Americans and our troops.
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