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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:17 PM
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People are getting radicalized
I know this guy, he is one of my play testers. Have known him for years and he drank the kool aid. So yesterday I took him to his car and I had Air America on... so he started asking questions, and wondering what is a neo con? He's heard the term... so I told him what neo cons are and how far they are going to go, heck even took Leo Strauss out, as it were, and explained good ol' Leo to him


He agrees, Bush is NOT a conservative... everything he has done is NOT conservative. Heck he did not even argue when I called El Presidente a Fascist... he actually asked, why is the Democratic Leadership not calling a spade a spade? I patiently explained the same pattern happened in Germany.. in the world of politics they cannot, or think they cannot, say things like this... aka the president is a fascist. Next things I know he will be going over to Rhandhis Web site to get the torture memos and the rest of the crap. Regardless how you put it, he is getting radicalized... and he is one of those folks who is a republican because daddy was one, but now that he has to face medical problems with wife and his job is not secure and all that... folks he is now more than willing to listen to the other side....

I see that process going on all over the place. We were the leading edge, but when people like my friend start to get radicalized and do not rail at the idea of maybe we need to leave social security alone (an item of faith that it has to be privatized) and maybe my party leadership is RADICAL... you know there is something significant going on in this society... my read... the misery index is very close to 70%
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:20 PM
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1. Doesn't it rock, nad??
:thumbsup:

What's a play tester?

NGU.


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:25 PM
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4. Role playing game play tester, my brother in law and I
are developing a science fiction game... and good ol me is using little known facts of US history in the fluff, that is the fiction of the game... yep brought back the good ol Metanphysical Societies, including the password used during king goerge the mad (the original).

Just like Dungeons and Dragons we do a lot of testing before deployment hoping to close off loopholes
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:20 PM
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2. What's the "official" misery index? n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:28 PM
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5. They used to print it
it is a combination of the unemployment (the real one), rates, as well as the buying capacity of the dollar and general salary index.

These days it is a pain to calculate... since they started fibbing with the unemployment numbers a while back... I will give you an examplme, my hubby retired from the Navy, and took him a year to find his next career... over teh course of taht year since we never took benefits (my mom helped us and we could more or less do it with his retirement pay and what i put on the side over the course of three years) we were NEVER counted in the statistics. Heck since I have sold a piece here or there as a freelancer, under Goerge's definitiion I am employed, never mind what I got paid does not even require me to pay taxes.. but I am fully employed.

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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:43 PM
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8. I'm fully employed too.
My $70k a year sales job with benefits and 401k went to China 4 years ago. Spent 2 years interviewing. Got rave reviews on the resume & great response to phone interviews but when I showed in person with grey hair the face to face lasted maybe 5 minutes.

Started my own business. Spent $15k first year and made $0. Spent $9k last year and made $11k. I might make $20k this year.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:45 PM
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9. We hope that the game company will
allow us to make about 20K a year after five, so you got that nail... and yes it is a pain...

I have been keeping my overhead low by doing a lot of my own art, and gee golly, writing, but yep... it is a pain
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:22 PM
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3. I think you're right about the misery index.
Coming home from a showing I saw a well dressed middle aged man (slacks, oxford shirt & tie)standing next to his three year old auto holding a sign reading: I need a job, Please.

A jobless recovery is not a recovery.

Health care you can't afford isn't health care.

Democracy at the end of a gun isn't democracy.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:29 PM
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6. Look at piccies of Nov 1929
You will see the same... well dressed men selling apples on the street of NYC for a nickel, to feed their families... those were the stock brokers who lost their shirts.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:33 PM
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7. Yup, and photos of the same brokers selling their high-end automobiles
for chump change with signs like "For Sale, $40, Need Food."
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 01:51 PM
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10. "The conversion of a moderate" thread. It is happening all over
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