why in GOD'S name are we allowing

the laughable "news" network of sean hannity, bill o'reilly, roger ailes and rupert murdoch to host a DEMOCRATIC debate? (or in THEIR terms, a DEMOCRAT debate)... i mean does NOT something seem REALLY off here to other folks???

and on top of it, to have someone like BRIT HUME moderate?!?


hell, why don't we just hold the debate in the white house, let rush limbaugh moderate it, and then let karl rove and the RNC analyze it on air afterwards for the national audience...


this is INSANE! shame on the black caucus or whoever is responsible for having this happen!

this could well be a disaster in the making.


i can just see those cronies of faux and the bush cabal rubbing their sweaty, dirty little hands together right this second and smiling about the possibilites.

Vatican announces Iranian Mullah's to chose next pope.

and they know that to win votes, you have to do more than just preach to the choir.

Don't you think the FAUX viewers deserve a chance to hear the truth?

Why should we help them put flesh on their assertion that they are "fair and balanced." Let them do that themselves.

FOX assertion, post-debate? See those awful commies? All except Joe Lieberman, who is a good boy, but he can't win.

I'd still go, but I'd be damned if I take any shit from Brit Hume.

You believe the truth will be allowed on faux News? I have an Aluminum mine you may be interested in. It's really a good buy and that is the truth (Faux news style).

I mean they want the air time; they made some sort of deal to ensure some legitimacy. I mean this could also be foxs chance to pretend to be a legitimate news organization.

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There just may be intelligent voters who occasionally watch Fox. And when they get to see all the Dems and all the truths about AWOL and all of the great ideas, they might remember it.

Why would you protest to more coverage of Dems? I'm betting half of them bite Brit's hand off when he dangles some bait in front of them and chew it up and spit it in his face for ALL THE MORANS TO SEE!!!!!!

Bring em on!!

if (IF) they can do this again on God's own channel, I would consider it a PR victory for our side

look at it this way, perhaps the volk at FOX have realized that the Dem/Lib population is much larger than the Rep/Nazi population, and are acting accordingly...

I'm sure they would LOVE to have Limbaugh or Rove moderate, they could answer all their garbage directly.

These people depend on airing their crap unanswered, the dems should welcome any chance to challenge it.

Bush-lite line, while viciously attacking the other candidates.

While the moderators can make any number of snide and childish comments, they are not allowed to shout anyone down. They must follow the debate format, so the candidates will get to make their arguments.

There will certainly be plenty of Freepers tuning in just to throw tomatoes at the TV, but there is also the opportunity to plant "seeds of doubt" out there in redstateland.

I saw a congress woman (can't remember her name..sorry) from Michigan on CSPAN earlier today talking about this. She's a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who is sponsoring the debates and she said that FOX just presented them with the best package. She also said that they looked at it as an opportunity for the candidates to get their messages out to an audience who might not normally see them.

The thing I hat about it though is that FOX is advertising it as the Democrat Debate! You would think that they would make them use the party's actual name in the advertisement and not the republican nutbag shortened insult.

It soothes the ditto-monkeys. It doesn't harm the Dems.

liberals and dems are so fucking gullable it's almost laughable...

care to enlighten us?

:shrug:

unbelievable... i'm just shaking my head...

grow up newsguy. Really.

To say that we shouldn't "allow" Fox to host a Dem debate is no better than repukes saying we shouldn't allow Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, etc. etc. to interview Bush or Republicans.

You are falling into the trap of FEARING the Faux network which was the butt of everyone's joke for the past month after the Franken debacle.

Do you really think Freepers who love Faux will change their previous held beliefs of Dems=Communists whether it is covered or not on Faux?

This is a forced wake-up call to those who need to hear some truth. This will not be a shout-down from O'Really, it is a debate.

you are reminding me a little of Fox yourself :-)

..........and this is from you? Your words not mine.


" if you're a moderate and/or devoid of untamed rage, i probably won't like
you :-)

Does this mean that Dubya is not God, after all?

Dem's POV: they want access to a new audience that may not hear them through other channels

FOX POV:
1. they want all the right-wingers to associate Democrat with the BLACK caucus
2. they want to be perceived by the average Joe as "fair and balanced" by even showing Democrats on TV
3. they want to try and demolish Kerry and Dean in the post-analysis, while the average Joe thinks that their comments are fair and balanced.

BUT Fox won't be able to keep the Democratic candidates from speaking. If the Dems attack Bush and not each other, many Fox viewers will hear things they have never heard before.

If he viciously attacks the other candidates, this will play to the Fox spin afterward.

at making fun of the dems. Just think of the fun they could have with lighting, with staging, maybe they will put up fun graphics behind the head of the speaking democrat (like bunny ears in a photograph). Not likely to actually happen - but were I one of the candidates I would really be concerned about the funny stage tricks that the fun folks at faux might be tempted to pull. Remember the name of their game is: RIDICULE and marginalize democrats. I can't imagine they would allow anything on their station that might actually lead one regular faux viewer to actually hear something that might peel said viewer away from campbush.

plus they can claim "fair and balanced" just by having shown the Democratic debate. Why the fuck would we want to legitimize that cesspool?

I wouldn't put it past Hume and Williams (who is the third panelist?) to ask them loaded questions as well, although that could produce a backlash from the audience that is already sympathetic to the candidates.

FOX news will crown Dean the winner of the debate, and then lambaste him.

:shrug:

This is just another attempt at being "Fair and Balanced". And I couldn't agree more.....Brit Hume!! What a dour and sour guy.

They freak me out... it's like he used eye whitener along with his tooth whitener.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

The Funny thing is that it isn't listed on the DNC website. I don't know why.

It's almost as if they want the debate to get bad ratings so they can use that as evidence that people don't like Democrats.

I know they are using that more, but why? Is it supoposed to be insulting, or just another attempt to define us, without consulting us first...like they always do?

which I'm sure is just a coincidence on Fox's part...

not

It's demeaning. The democratic party should not legitimize FOX. I hear FOX is billing the debate as "The FOX is in the chickenhouse".

Whoever made this decision should be banned from the party. It's beyond stupid. Are you listening assholes?

Bad move. Fox takes every opportunity to lynch the Democratic Party, and I don't see why anyone would give them an inch of rope.

This also gives them a patina of legitimacy as a news outlet, which they do not deserve.

In my humble opinion this doesn't look good. Brit Hume moderates. I refuse to watch.

Ya better belive that Rove and those assholes from Fox News got their heads together this very moment.

This is a joke, much like the chickens letting the foxes come in the hen house to entertain 'em. Naw this ain't
for me.

to get the gig. Did *any* other network make a bid?

one the one hand :
the danger of Faux spinning the debate

on the other hand : airtime & a chance to reach out and touch

Let me contend this :
SUPPOSE Faux didn't have the debate - what would they be airing instead?
From what I understand, it would be all spin all the way, they can show parts of the debate or quote the dems, picking the bits & pieces and connecting all the dots the wrong way.

So, the dems getting their opinion out at least partially unspun will be an improvement.

Whether the improvement is large enough to justify paying for this (which is what ther are doing, right ?? does sounds a bit peculiar...)is another matter...

Will it draw more because it's on Fox?

this to prove my point about faux...


to all those who said: "wow, this'll be great, fox is great, fox viewers deserve this."


ya still feel the same way?


this is bullshit