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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:19 PM
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12,000-Year-Old Bones Found in Kansas
12,000-Year-Old Bones Found in Kansas

Tuesday, February 15, 2005

(02-15) 17:35 PST Goodland, Kan. (AP) --

Scientists say mammoth and camel bones unearthed in northwest Kansas that date back 12,200 years could be part of "one of the most important archaeological sites in North America."

The bones, found last June in Sherman County near the Colorado border, were alongside a piece of stone that archaeologists say was the kind used in tools that humans once used to butcher animals.

Archaeological geologist Rolfe Mandel of the Kansas Geological Survey said carbon-14 dating completed last week shows the bones are between 12,200 and 12,300 years old, which could mean humans lived on the Great Plains 1,300 years earlier than previously thought.

Mandel said if excavations this summer verify the finding of the stone tool, it would make the archaeological site among the oldest in the New World.

"It would be one of the most important sites in North America," he said.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/02/15/state/n114928S83.DTL
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:20 PM
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1. The devil put those bones there to test your faith!
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 09:21 PM by Jacobin
:evilgrin:
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:21 PM
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2. Damn, you beat me to it!
:hi:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:23 PM
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4. Everyone knows the world is only 4652 years old
so those bones can't be that old. Carbon dating is just a theory. The Grand Canyon was created by the Great Flood discussed in the Bible.

Hell, I leave this site for twenty minutes and the damned secular scientist gawdless fiends are posting all over the place!!!
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:50 PM
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13. hahahaha
The fundies are so ridiculous. Science smacks them in the face routinely and they just pass it by. IMHO science is man's best evidence of the existence of a higher power!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:22 PM
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3. No, it can't be!
Kansas was created only 5000 years ago!

This science stuff is the devil's work!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:24 PM
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5. Cool!
The documentation of paleo occupation of north America is fascinating.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:40 PM
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11. Especially when it's so sparse.
I always said that if they really looked they'd find..and now they are looking and they are finding. WooT!!!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 10:09 PM
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14. I have found
a paleo camp site, and have a few fluted points and related tools. Few things compare with finding a clovis point in mint condition. Reading this site is interesting, in part because I had told a few DU friends that I was doing a presentation on the archaeology of the northeast last Saturday.

A local archaeologist from the NYS University system found a site that he believed pre-dated the paleo era (by far). I've kept an article from the 7-4-76 Binghamton Press on his discoveries; they are also detailed in, among other places, "Archaeological Investigations In The Upper Susquehanna Valley, New York State," by NYS Artchaeologist Robert Funk, 1993. The guy, B.E. Raemsch, interpreted tests as showing the site to have been occupied about 70,000 years ago.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:47 PM
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18. My goal in life is to find a point on the ground.
The amazing thing is it wouldn't have been touched by human hands in thousands and thousands of years.
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:24 PM
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6. Too bad for Kansas schoolchildren...
that they'll never hear about it.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 10:15 PM
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15. Mine will. I'll hogtie the BOE if I need to.
(Yikes, now I'm starting to sound like a redneck!)
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:24 PM
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7. Are they sure
it's not Bob Dole?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:29 PM
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8. Geez, I knew Pat Roberts was old but.....
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:32 PM
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9. The Human Beings have been part of Turtle Island
for 40,000 years or more. That is how it is remembered in the spiritual heart of this land where we live. The oral tradition is, in my experience, always worthy of finding out about and then considering carefully. So often I find the elders have remembered more deeply and impeccably than any scientist could imagine.

That is why among the human beings of Turtle Island (North America), certain people have always served the community as Keepers of certain tales and teachings, and those have been passed on, and those will be passed on.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:36 PM
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10. Impossible. Every Kansas school child knows
Kansas was created at 10:27 a.m., October 6, 4664 B.C. (Or thereabouts.)
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:49 PM
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12. It was probably some paleo-lithic family
on its way to vacation in Estes Park.

:hi: from Kansas!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 03:33 AM
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16. Nope... CSI:Hayseed just found Jesus' pet Mastodon's bones..
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 03:34 AM by SoCalDem
See Jesus' family was on vacation (the dollar was down then too), and Jesus pitched such a fit about leaving Timmy (the mastodon) behind, so Mary & Joseph said "Ok, Timmy can come, but he's staying OUTSIDE". Kansas gets pretty cold..what with all that wind whistling across the plains and all, so when Joseph went out to check on Timmy, he found him dead from exposure...Mary & Joseph switched him with that damn camel...which Jesus hated on sight, since it spit in his eye..

Needless to say, when vacation was over, they just left Eddie (the camel) behind..

Of course some skeptics will say that it's impossible.. the timeline doesn't work... and the family (Joe & Mary Carpenter) would never have vacationed in such a wasteland as "pre-Murka", but I say...bah!! it was off-season and that's when all the best bargains are..

The chip on his shoulder that made Jesus so "edgy" probably stems from the childhood loss of Timmy, and the callous remark that his Dad made as they all left for home..

"Let that carcass rot..I ain't dragging that big smelly thing back to Nazareth"..
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 03:55 AM
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17. Neat!


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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 09:48 PM
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19. The Christians just ignore the facts. Jesusland does not accept Science.
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