Fundie website I saw on a car this morning

It was a minivan with a W sticker and another bumper sticker with something called Moms In Touch. This lady had fundie written all over her. Her hair was a serious 50's style. I was thinking about driving around and trying to find her car so I could stick a FraWd sticker over the W one. I printed a bunch and am just waiting for somebody worthy.

So check out the site...
http://www.momsintouch.org

Moms In Touch International is two or more moms who meet for one hour each week to pray for their children, their schools, their teachers, and administrators.

Purpose:
To stand in the gap for our children through prayer.

To pray that our children will receive Jesus as Lord and Savior, then stand boldly in their faith.

To pray for teachers and staff.

To pray that teachers, administrative staff, and students would come to faith in Jesus Christ.

To provide support and encouragement to moms who carry heavy burdens for their children.

To pray that our schools may be directed by Biblical values and high moral standards.

To be an encouragement and a positive support to our schools

Moms In Touch International is two or more moms who meet for one hour each week to pray for their children, their schools, their teachers, and administrators. Click here for more

rather than "prayer". Oh goodie, my soul is saved..but I can't afford anymore kleenex for my classroom.

Or perhaps that the children they teach have enough food to eat, EVERY day. That they don't have to live in neighborhoods that are essentially war zones. That they don't have to wonder if tonight's the night Daddy makes good on his threats to shoot Mommy. That they are cherished and loved and read to. That they have access to medical care, including eyeglasses, that make all the difference in classroom achievement.

Jeez, droning on and on about these trifles when thars sinnin' to be stopped!

Who, to paraphrase Pat Robertson, has been lead by feminism into abandoning Christianity and becoming a lesbian (well, that's a resounding no on that last point(, and you know that you really can't luuuurve America unless you're a fundamentalist Christian.

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NGU.

They are free to believe as they wish. What I hate is when they use those beliefs to base legislation on, as in the case of lawmakers who are fundies and other assorted crazies.

Ug. THAT'S what gets my goat.

If she wants to pray for her kid and her kids' school, have at it. But what I'd like to see is a renewal of separation of church and state. Because that whole thing has gotten FAR too murky for THIS American.

other things to help raise money for their schools? Programs at schools are always in need of some help with money. Or their time. :shrug: Prayer doesn't help with everything.

and I wouldn't want to try to.

I agree with you on the time thing, but I don't determine how people spend their time.

but then you can't be pious and holier than thou by doing that.

thank you!

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Geezum, I sure hope you didn't catch anything from . . . being so close to 'em!

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that these people are so enamored with prayer. Many pray, why does god kill many who pray and only save certain ones? Did they pray harder or something? It's all in their minds, there is no invisible daddy in the sky that sorts through prayers and deems some worth and others unworthy. Why do people continue to buy into this myth? I thought we'd come into an age of reason some time ago. Not where this stuff is concerned I guess. They all want to give control (where there is none to be given) to some stern, grumpy, invisible, vengeful father figure in the sky. Don't they EVER think about the absurdity of that premise?

I baffles me without end.

I so wanted to put a DU sticker or maybe even a rainbow sticker on that truck.

with parents praying for their children, if fact I would expect that from any parent of any faith.

I have no problem with them praying for the teachers and administrators; sure beats branding them all godless and yanking the kids out of those satanist institutions in favor of home schooling.

I have no problem with desiring schools run under biblical morals and values--as long as you're talking about biblical values such as respect, justice, love, peace.

I have no problem with providing encouragement and support to the schools--as long as they demonstrate that in some tangible way through volunteering.

But I do have a problem with praying for the teachers and administrators to come to faith in Jesus Christ. The urge to proselytize the world is great among groups like this, and that urge will undoubtedly spill over into the other areas that, on face value as noted above, I have no problem with. The morals and values that they will push will probably be something other than respect and tolerance of others; the volunteer work that is done will probably have a deeper motivation than just trying to help; The prayers won't be limited to the home or private gathering, but they will desire such prayers to enter the schools themselves.

I've seen far worse groups, but they are still troubling, perhaps even moreso because they are stealthy, subtle and seemingly harmless.

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thing called freewill and if you force someone to see your way of things dealing with faith it could backfire in a big way.

I'm a Christian myself, and while I certainly see the need to share my faith, I strongly feel the best way to do that is to simply live my faith. If I converse with others over matters of theology, I do so with respect for differences; I have to consider that someone with differing beliefs or no beliefs has as much right to try to "convert" me as I have to "convert" them. We may never agree on much, and both go away without a conversion, but we will both have grown from the exchange, and my faith as well as the faith of my new friend will both be richer.

The problem with most evangelicals today is that they assume a faith vacuum. They don't buy into a post-modern world where a myriad of beliefs and belief-systems exist. In their eyes, anyone who doesn't believe as they do doesn't believe in anything; thus, there is no need to respect another's faith because they don't really have any faith. And for some that I know, they refuse to listen to different opinions that might corrupt their beliefs, which begs the question, "just how sincere is their belief in the first place?"

They even have a notice in our neighborhood newsletter.

:argh:

attack on a noninflammatory site. its not like its the flat earth society advocacy group

you've just shown us why there needs to be prayer in school. So we can understand "kida" (??) and pray that you'll learn when to use it's instead of its.
We're praying for you.
This is not a 'kida" cheap shot.
It is definitely a cheap shot.
You're at DU now. Ramp up.

I'd be really pissed off if some asshole started plastering W THE PRESIDENT stickers all over the stickers on my car.

(ok, I don't have any stickers on my car. still! still! I could!)

Putting Al Franken books over Hannity books at a store is one thing, applying irritating adhesives to cars is another.