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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:57 PM
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We dug into Gannon's PROFESSIONAL life as male prostitute & fake reporter
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 02:58 PM by Stephanie


Male prostitute and fake reporter were Gannon's dual CAREERS. Nobody knows anything about his PERSONAL life, nor do we care. But a guy who charges $200 an hour has a pretty good business going and that is fair game when he is moonlighting as a fake journalist in the White House press room. So give me a break about "outting" him or invading his "personal" life. Nobody is interested in his personal life. His two careers are more than enough information to go on. Agreed?

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:59 PM
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1. Good point!
This weakens the analogy to Clinton.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:25 PM
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45. Don't forget the "openly gay, canadian" reporter the WH outed in 03
Jeffrey Koffman, targeted because he published an article the WH did not like

"Despite White House denials, Drudge told the Washington Post he received a phone call from the White House communications department tipping him off to the information on Kofman, reports the Toronto Globe and Mail.

Critics of Kofman's report seized upon the Drudge headline and pointed to the reporters nationality as an explanation for why he would file "unpatriotic" reports from Iraq, according to the Citizen.

Kofman filed a report on ABC World News Tonight on Tuesday noting that morale among U.S. troops stationed in Iraq is plunging. Several of the interviewed soldiers complained about the war and the length of time they've spent in Iraq."


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33663
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:59 PM
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2. If his prostitution were personal, why would he post it on numerous
sites.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 02:59 PM
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3. That's God's honest truth.
I mean, if it was so private, why was he spreading it all over the I-net where Cliff's children could download it while doing their homework??

NGU.


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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:02 PM
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4. That's the way I see it.
He was a male escort, that's makes him a sex industry worker. It's a job when you're getting paid for preforming sexual acts, it's not personal. Ask any prostitute out there.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:19 PM
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18. You are correct.
Oh wait, I never got PAID for it ..... I was just a slut.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:24 PM
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20. Then that's your personal life.
You're welcome to be a slut and I won't smear your professional life for it. ;)
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:22 PM
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44. thanks for the belly laugh
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:02 PM
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5. It the FAX-BLASTED meme
from the RNC!!!

Those mean, mean Democrats are attacking Gannon for his PERSONAL LIFE....

remember..say it loud enough and often enough and it becomes TRUTH!!!
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:04 PM
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8. Please e-mail this to Howard Kurtz, who is trying to insist that
investigating Gannon means "exposing" the "private" lifes of all journalists. If you put it on a website and you advertise your wares and seek reimbursement for your services, then a) you're not having your privacy invaded since you posted it on a public website) and b) it's a business-not personal!

Howie the whore's e-mail addy: kurtzh@washpost.com
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:09 PM
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13. Does not he have to be a "REAL" journalist first?
There are nuances to this story that beg to differ
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:24 PM
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38. don't forget c) illegal
last time I checked, it was still illegal to accept money for sexual services here in the us of a (not sure about nevada, of course).
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:37 AM
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50. In parts of Nevada, it's legal
It is illegal in Reno, Las Vegas, Carson City and Lake Tahoe.

The only way a prostitute can legally work is in a brothel--and she is required to live on the premises.

http://www.sexuality.org/l/workers/nevada.html
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:05 PM
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10. Then they're setting a spring-loaded trap for themselves...
...because this one is so easy to knock down it's ridiculous.

:hi:

NGU.


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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:08 PM
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12. How many of us post the intimate details of our lives on the internet
complete with nude photographs? Few to no hands going up on that one I'd bet. He lost all claim to privacy when he made those web sites and posted his personal information with contact information. Give me a break. Just because they want this to go away doesn't mean we should let them frame this debate in such a dishonest manner. No one dug around like Linda Tripp or pretended to befriend him to gain information the information was all right out there. Personal life? Give me an effin break.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:03 PM
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6. If this were Bill Clinton's fake reporter and part-time hustler, the
"liberal" press would be all over this like white on rice. Bugman delay would be calling for a Special Prosecutor and janus buchanan would be having his Inquisition robes dry-cleaned. Allowing a two-bit huckster like gannon to pose as a member of the white house press corps goes beyond crass. But then again, so does the bush* administration on a daily basis.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:04 PM
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7. EVERY LAST BIT OF IT WAS WIDE OPEN IN THE PUBLIC SPACE!!!!!
Damn, we MUST HAMMER THAT FACT HOME!!!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:16 PM
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16. It was his ADVERTISING for his BUSINESS that we looked at -
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 03:16 PM by Stephanie


Nobody peeked in his windows. It's pretty basic reporting to find out what line of work somebody is in, and it's especially easy when they have a website advertising their services. It is not our fault that his business is prostitution.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:05 PM
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9. Agreed, don't care what he does privately
so long as it's not hurting anyone. That's why it's called private.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:07 PM
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11. 'Gannon's' advertising on the net is no different than
any e-florist ads, they advertise a product, show pictures of samples of their product and prices. It is NOT private, it is business, full stop.

The repubs are losing on this faux 'privacy' crap and they know it, watch them try out a new meme soon.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:10 PM
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14. Gannon was MOONLIGHTING!
we found that on the internet.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:35 PM
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22. He was moonlighting as a fake reporter
His first career was as professional male prostitute. Later, he took on a second job as fake White House reporter.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:09 PM
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24. Well since he liked the top
I just figured he was moon lighting! :shrug:

No one delved into his personal life, his professional talents as publicly displayed on the internet were highlighted and scrutinized.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:27 PM
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26. "scrutinized"----- That should say scrotumized"
:evilgrin: Hard to get my mind out of the gutter when talking about Guckert.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:34 PM
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27. LOL - I stand corrected!
Jimmy-Jeff/Gannon-Gurkett/Cannon-Gerkin/Bulldog
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:36 PM
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47. You guys are killing me -- I'm going to wet my pants!
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:10 PM
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15. Well, they crucified Anita Hill , and Brock needs to counter this.
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 03:11 PM by jdj
He is, after all the one that wrote "The Real Anita Hill".

He's not supposed to be using an alias to get a press pass.

McClellan knew it was an alias, which means he knew the real name, which means he knew about the tax evasion.

He also had no legitimate news outlet for months.

He posted those pics on the internet himself, voluntarily.

They need to take their DOMA and their abortion amendments and get out of OUR personal lives. They can't have it both ways.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:16 PM
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17. remember Monica? Since when is prying into personal lives taboo?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:25 PM
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21. The point is that angle has no validity
They can't use it because it doesn't apply. ;)
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:19 PM
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19. My head is going to explode!!!!!
It is not about his personal life. I don't want to know anything MORE about this creep than what HE posted on the Net about himself. The man advertised his services as a prostitute on the internet. He pretended to be a journalist in the white house press room. There is nothing about his personal life in any of the stories about him. They only way we know anyhting about his family is from his whining about it to Wolf Blitzer.


AValdoux
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 03:50 PM
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23. Welcome to DU, AValdoux!
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 04:18 PM
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25. We don't want him...
The repubes are trying to make this about his being outed? Give me a break. They just are trying to distance themselves from him and guess what, we don't want him.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 07:04 PM
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28. Hi im10ashus!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 07:07 PM
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29. it's about ongoing propaganda from the white house and deceiving the
public.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 07:16 PM
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30. Personal life? Like family members, hobbies, girlfriends, boyfriends?
No one has made one single inquiry or expressed the least bit of interest in anything "personal" about Jiffy-Lube Jeff. He volunteered the info about his "family."

I don't care what his favorite color is, his birthday, what color his eyes are. I don't care how he decorates his home or even what kind of house it is, or what kind of car he drives or the clothes he wears. I don't care who his intimate companions are or what kind of books he reads or music he listens to or television shows he watches, or what his IQ is. I don't even give a rat's patooie if he has a dog or a cat or what the animal's name is.

All I care about is how the hell this two-bit poseur got into the White House, and why can't we get one single straight answer from the White House on this fiasco.
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 07:29 PM
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31. Jiffy-Lube Jeff
That one should have come with a spit warning.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:48 PM
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36. Beg your pardon.
I like the alliteration ;)
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:30 PM
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39. Jeffy-Lube Drive Thru Service
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:04 PM
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32. "Outed"? He hasn't been outed.
I neither know nor care whether he's gay in his personal life. What I do care about is that someone with this sleazoid (and, might I add, illegal) profession, freely advertised on the Internet, was able to get an unprecedented and quite unethical amount of access to the White House, to Administration officials, and to classified documents.

It's hardly outing someone to visit an advertisement for their business.
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fresnobill314 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:07 PM
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34. When are they going to arrest this asshole?
On what planet is prostitution legal? When is someone going to have Guckert arrested? Let's see how much of a "top" he is in the general population!
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:29 PM
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46. For tax evasion, like Capone!
He is also apparently in arrears (sorry about pun) some $20k in unapid taxes. Hmmm, that's how they nailed Capone.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:42 PM
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35. Hear, hear!
It isn't his private life. He put it all out there, advertised his services, and published his rates. He has no standing now to claim it was "private". And the fact that a male prostitute has been part of the White House Press Corps(e) for the last 2+ years is, well, mind boggling when you think about it.

Too bad most of our media are incapable of thinking at all.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 08:52 PM
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37. Great Point!!!! Recommended!!
The Repubs seem to be sticking to this "exposing his personal life" bullshit like white on rice. It is important that we dismantle that talking point now and forever.

GAY PROSTITUTION WAS GUCKERT'S CAREER!!!!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:31 PM
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40. Guckert fails to take personal responsibility for PUBLIC actions
and that's the one line answer to his bullshit about his "personal life".
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:11 PM
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42. You have to do something for a pass
At least thats the way it is with Rockstars.

"It's not who you know, it's who you blow!!!!!"
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:11 PM
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41. Most Excellent Observation, Stephanie. Kicking This Up.
It was not his "private life" but his "professional life".

Damn! You are good! :thumbsup:
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:20 PM
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43. great point!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:12 AM
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48. You said it, sister!!
:thumbsup:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:16 AM
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49. Also "Gannon" challenged us to scrutinize him.
Remember, we weren't supposed to find anything in his background because he said there was nothing to find.

It's a bitch when your bluff is called, isn't it?
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 04:15 PM
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51. Agreed...letter below to MSM
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 04:16 PM by sojourner
To Whom it May Concern: I am emailing all the broadcast journalists I can think of who have covered the Jeff Gannon story. I understand that in some circles Mr. Guckert's cry that his privacy has been invaded is getting a sympathetic hearing. Therefore, allow me to beg your thoughtful indulgence, and briefly point out a few things about the "privacy" that was invaded:

1. It was publicly available on the Internet, on professional websites where Mr. Guckert was offering his professional services. PROFESSIONAL. SERVICES. Business enterprise. Since when do citizens of any stripe expect a free "privacy" pass for posting their photos on public websites that offer their professional services? (Might I also point out that these services are illegal?)

2. Next, since this man was appearing regularly in White House press briefings, it would seem that discovery of his professional qualifications and employment history would be entirely relevant to the "job" he was doing. Is it the fault of the researchers that in addition to articles and weblogs they discovered this less than gallant sideline?

3. Guckert and his supporters try to paint this a "hatchet" job or an "outing" of an innocent victim. Really, Monica comes more to mind as an innocent victim than this fellow. After all, she was a youthful intern infatuated with her boss. She hadn't posted photos of them to the Internet, either. And, if she hadn't been tricked into spilling the beans to a mean-spirited "friend" who taped their conversations, her privacy would have remained intact as well it should have!

So, as to Mr. Guckert's ill-advised decision to post himself on the internet as a male escort - though I can surely feel for the man, and his Grandmother (who must be sorely disappointed and saddened). I believe it would have been HIS responsiblity to decide whether he wanted his activities public or private. I'll repeat for emphasis: HIS RESPONSIBILITY. He is a member of the "take personal responsibility" party isn't he? So let him do so. But let not the press give him any more credibility on his claims to "invaded privacy" or being the victim of a "hatchet job".

Instead, please find out what a man with so few credentials was doing with such easy access to the White House. Was it just another part of the administration's media management efforts? Or, were there favors being called in? If so, how might these have compromised our national security? And who besides Mr. Guckert is responsible? And.......I hesitate here, but find it must be asked. What is this WH, with its supposed commitment to "decency" and "righteousness", doing allowing special WH access to a sex worker?


PS: Threatening phone calls, etc. are not the responsibility of those who discover and report unflattering information are they? I mean, would YOU call off a story because some nut jobs are going to make life hell for the principals? Didn't think so.


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