Geez. This list of aircraft carriers is interesting

bluestateguy

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Sun Feb-20-05 12:47 AM
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Geez. This list of aircraft carriers is interesting

I never knew that nations like Argentina, Brazil and Thailand had aircraft carriers. Yet China has none, nor do any middle eastern nations, even Israel, have any. Is seems to me, that middle eastern countries, as a general rule, don't have real strong navies. Oh, and get ready folks for the USS George H.W. Bush (I guess he gets a carrier even though he cut the military budget more than Bill Clinton, who increased it in his second term).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers

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CO Liberal

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Sun Feb-20-05 12:49 AM
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1. The USS George W. Bush Should Be a Garbage Scow

:-)

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unblock

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Sun Feb-20-05 01:06 AM
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7. the uss george w. bush should be hauled away AS garbage

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CO Liberal

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Sun Feb-20-05 10:41 AM
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11. Actually, George W. Bush Should Be Hauled Away As Garbage

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Up2Late

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Sun Feb-20-05 12:50 AM
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2. Oh it gets better...

...the USS George H.W. Bush is supposed to be a "Stealth" Air Craft Carrier.:wtf:

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Placebo

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Sun Feb-20-05 12:54 AM
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3. Yeah, but those countries just buy used ones...

which our state of the art behemoths of destructive power could eliminate with ease. :D

That being said, the day any vessel, short of a garbage scow, is named after GWB I will go crazy.

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salvorhardin

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Sun Feb-20-05 12:54 AM
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4. I believe Israel

does have three subs armed with nuclear warheads that we sold them though...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/israel/sub.htm

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Up2Late

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Sun Feb-20-05 01:03 AM
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5. Here ya go, If you want to see the USS GHW Bush

Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 01:04 AM by Up2Late

and a good list of all the different types of ships the DoD is waisting your money on.
<http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/>
:grr:

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illflem

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Sun Feb-20-05 01:06 AM
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6. Speaking of aircraft carriers

anyone remember the al Queda statement a little after 9/11 when it was said the US would have to sell off all it's aircraft carriers to the oil nations in order to pay off it's enormous national debt?

Well the enormous debt part has come true, wonder when the rest will?

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oldfogey

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Sun Feb-20-05 01:10 AM
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8. If anything

at all that he has done could be considered commendable it was the proposal to retroactively raise the death benefits for soldiers in the Iraq and future wars.

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necso

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Sun Feb-20-05 01:46 AM
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9. To get a good picture,

you have to look at the aircraft compliments, the nature of the battlegroup, etc.

If they are in "deep water", fought well and maneuvered carefully, only submarines (of "water-craft") have much of a chance against our carrier battlegroups (and I sure hope that ASW "defenses" are being maintained adequately).

However, these battlegroups are extremely expensive, and they have to be treated like irreplaceable gems. -- Because in practise they may turn out to be.

Some of these foreign carriers are more "prestige" pieces than any real threat to defended targets.

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Grey Ranks

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Sun Feb-20-05 02:07 AM
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10. Not as it Seems

First of all, Argentina's carriers are decommissioned.

The United States is the only nation to ever have "Super Carriers". What Americans think of when they hear "carrier".

China is building, and if I am not mistake, Super Carriers. They are also building long-range bombers and new tanks comparable to the Abrams, and by that I mean they can hurt an Abrams, even if they aren't as good. We have a potential arms race on our hands.

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