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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:39 AM
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Help Take Down GOPUSA
I've been blogging about this bullshit "news organization" for a few weeks...only I've been focusing on the "journalistic" aspects of it.

But I need help.

I've been posting articles that prove that Bobby Eberle and his talon newsers not only take stuff from government and gop press releases....they also plagiarize from the mainstream media.

Bobby himself is a thief.

I need help going through stories and finding more examples...please email me or come to my site and leave a message or get in touch with me on this thread and I'll hand out spottheplagiarist assignments (along with tips to help you along)

if we find enough examples...Bobby Eberle might face a ton of lawsuits and have to shut his propaganda site down.

oh....and talon news is not a news site...it's only a portal...the stories are posted on gopusa.com and that's the site i want taken down.

ps...this isn't about right leaning news organizations...i support fox's right and sinclair's right and clear channel's right to be conservative leaning (and the new york times as well lol)

i just hate the media consolidation but that's another story...

but gopusa isn't a news organization....they're plagiarists and propagandaists and they're gonna go down.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:29 AM
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1. This is a great chance to help on this effort.
I've been working with Ron on this for the last five days, or so, and it looks like there is rampant plagiarism involved.

We'll be checking out and kicking this thread. Your help will only make this case stronger. Thanks!
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 03:12 AM
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2. whoops
forgot to put a link to my blog:

http://www.whyareweback.blogspot.com


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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:42 PM
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3. Kick
:kick:
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:18 PM
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4. this thread interesting?GOPUSA,NJ young republicans and pro-wrestling
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1606924&mesg_id=1606924

i guess its a shameless plug for that thread :P
but it seems to be connected to what you are interested in, a strange example of propaganda and the interconnecting web that is gopusa/talon.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:27 PM
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5. Thanks. It looks like the wrestling thing is out of New Jersey.
That's a bit out of the scope of our current inquiry. We're focusing on Texas (Houston area) for now.

As for Steve Roeder.... Take my word for it, he's a real guy. Think of him as the "sports commentator" for Talon. If you want to help us out (which would be an incredible help to us), you could go through cached articles authored by Roeder and determine if any of them were plagiarized.

If you're going to do this, get ahold of Ron at whyareweback.blogspot.com (which you linked to in your thread). Thanks.
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:40 PM
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8. Wrestling
Is a sport that the gop has very close ties with...i've written about a former wrestler named ernie ladd...who has helped the bush family for over 30 years...

in my research...i discovered that there were many promotors and managers who were tied into the republican party....

that's why so many wrestlers appear at gop events...

they use wrestling to recruit...nothing wrong with that...hell...the democratic party should be doing the same in regards to the nba...since that's easily the sport that has the most players who think like us...and fans too

but i probably will address the wrestling gop connections further sometime later (probably months from now cause im backlogged on stories to work on) because it is very interesting...
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 03:52 PM
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6. .
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:36 PM
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7. According to the freepers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1347351/posts?page=1

I'm a fascist and a little Eichmann.

Can't these people read? I did write "i support fox's right and sinclair's right and clear channel's right to be conservative leaning"

which may be the first time that sentiment ever appeared at du (not that im slamming du...i love it here)

peace

so far...I've got one taker...I could use many more...
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detroitguy Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:15 PM
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9. WOW...
...I'd consider it a badge of honor if a Freeper post was started in response to a post of mine... though I'd probably never know about it. I rarely look at that site and find it hard to navigate when I do. Can't the far-right afford some good web developers?
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:29 PM
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11. actually
it's the second time I've appeared there...but the first time my site was directly linked...

not sure id consider it a badge of honor...

but...heck...us bloggers love to be read and linked to...so its nice to be noticed anywhere...

im actually a frequent surfer at free...it's an essential site for my research purposes
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:32 PM
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12. okay
now I've been compared to timothy mcveigh...on that same thread

can you believe some of these people?

I advocate exposing rampant plagiarism which exists at a fake news website which would hopefully lead to lawsuits from news organizations...and that makes me some kind of genocidal terrorist...

well...if they took the time to go to my blog...they'd see i don't demonize republicans (just the crazy neo-cons who support the war! lol)
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:40 PM
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13. Some Duers Have Joined the plagiarism brigade
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 08:41 PM by Ronbrynaert
But I could use even more...please help kick this up (or recommending it for the greatest list)

The fact that Talon News has repeatedly plagiarized from the mainstream media hasn't become a part of this story.

Aside from my blog, the only other blogger that I know that has written about it is Eric Jaffa at http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_essay_2005_02_19_lust_the_media_whore_who_literally_was_a_whore_jeff_gannon.asp

who showed that Jeff Gannon cribbed from a UPI story.

And we need help getting this part of Propagannon out!

Plagiarism is a big issue in the media world...many journalists take it personally and will go after this story (and all the side stories which link gopusa to the administration or the gop or other conservative groups and websites will also be more widely pursued).

I could also use help getting this info out to the bigger bloggers on the left (ummm...i've tried hard...but...to put it more than mildly...they hate me) on their commments lists or by emails etc:

The link to my talon news story archive (which will also carry the posts being written by others on the rampant plagiarism)

http://whyareweback.blogspot.com/2003/09/talon-news-gopusa-story-file.html

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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 09:32 PM
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14. Another plea-for-help kick.
Ron should be able to give everyone something to work on by tomorrow morning. We probably have only this next week to get exposure for the plagiarism angle.

Thanks to all those who have already volunteered. Good luck!

:kick:
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