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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:50 PM
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Heat Lightning In Winter
It's very warm here (70) and the sky is weird. Rolling rainless clouds at night.

I'm not surprised how Hunter went... why are so many of his fans surprised?

The Strangeness of Life is only tolerated for so long by many of us. Some longer than others.

Those of us who choose to stick around a little longer admire simple things like heat lightning. Even if it is strange for February.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:51 PM
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1. No such thing
as heat lighting. Just lighting too far away on the horizon for you to hear the heat shock wave (thunder).
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:02 PM
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4. If there is "no such thing" how do I experience it?
Obviously it has been given a name because it exists.

It just usually exists in the Summer.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:20 PM
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6. Well, not quite
"heat lightning" is a generally warm weather phenomenon, along with all other forms of lightning, and refers to cloud to cloud lightning strikes, rather than ground to cloud strikes. You may or may not hear faraway thunder with heat lightning.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:24 PM
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8. Heard no thunder tonight.
Thanks for the info Warpy.

The sky seems to be alight with lightning yet they are isolated...weird sky as I said.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:19 PM
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31. heat lightning is just lightning
that's to far away for the thunder to be heard.Light travels further than sound.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:26 PM
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32. Yeah
Too bad this whole thread wasn't too far away to be seen and heard.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:26 PM
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33. Yeah
Too bad this whole thread wasn't too far away to be seen and heard.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:52 PM
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2. Indeed...
:)
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 10:58 PM
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3. Well, I'm waiting for the suicide note or in Hunter's case the....
...in our faces essay that lays out the whole rationale for this final act of his. Without such a confirmation in his own words, I'll not quickly accept that he took his own life.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:11 PM
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5. Well, I disagree...
He was a man who used a lot of drugs. I doubt his last thoughts were about how America is getting screwed. He most likely had an imbalance and well, it came down to where he said "fuck it."
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:47 AM
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14. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but again until I hear....
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 06:49 AM by whistle
...corroborating statements from eye witnesses who were with Hunter on the night of or just before this act that he was indeed contemplating suicide or threatening suicide, I am not accepting the current explanation.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:03 AM
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19. I feel as though I owe it to Raul Duke to be paranoid for him.
The good Doctor would appreciate my intense suspicion that he was finally killed by the mincing, hate-filled swine that persecuted him for so long.

Peace, Dr. Duke.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:21 PM
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7. You can bet his pain was undertreated.
His family cited that as one reason.

Three cheers for the DEA. They haven't managed to shut down meth labs or CIA cocaine, but by god, they sure made those pain patients suffer!
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:46 PM
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10. Undertreated Pain?
Are you kidding me? Have you read his books? He voluntarily did these drugs for years.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:27 PM
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9. We had thunder during yesterday's snowstorm
I had no idea such a thing could occur...freaked me right out!
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:10 AM
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11. That is strange. I am trying to think if i have ever seen that....
No stranger to snow in Ohio, but i cannot remember ever seeing lightning.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:48 AM
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15. Where was this, what part of the country?
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:45 PM
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27. Michigan
It may be common, but that is the first time I personally have heard it here during a snowstorm.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:52 PM
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29. I was stuck at a friend's house in 1967 in Tulsa after a huge thunder-snow
storm in APRIL. We had humongous thunder, lightning and snow for several hourss...about 10 inches of snow. I was not able to get my car out of the driveway for two days. I'm not making this up. The lightning was particularly ...er, 'odd'...blue-greenish in color and a virtual blizzard. Definitely the weirdist weather I've ever seen, and I've seen some weird weather being a 7,800 hour pilot.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:41 PM
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34. That is some very weird weather
If there was lightning the other day... I didn't see it. Which is just as well since I probably would've thought bush had his HAARP machine out That was just a joke...(sort of LOL)
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:53 AM
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16. thunder-snow is quite common
when we DO get snow in the south. Of course, last night we got a KICK-ASS thunderstorm that rolled through the ATL area and in our area over three inches of hail piled up on the ground...some of it over an inch and a half diameter...wild and crazy stuff.

theProdigal
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:48 AM
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23. Get used to it!
"Global Climate Change" isn't political, and it won't go away just
because the Lord High Bush says it doesn't exist.

Tesha
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:54 AM
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24. just saying thunder-snow is nothing new
the Germas coined that phrase LONG ago. We get a good bout of thundersnow every couple of years here and just about yearly up in the mountains...

theProdigal
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:47 PM
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28. In the north to my knowledge it's an oddball thing
At least that was the first time I have ever heard it.

Very weird!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:11 PM
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30. The only time I ever heard thunder in Portland, OR
during the 3 years I lived there was in January, during a relatively rare snow storm.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:29 AM
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12. That reads like a poem.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:30 AM
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13. WE've had hail, flooding, heavy rain
and, yes, heat lightning ( that's what we always called it as kids, anyway.)

My place is up in high country and can't flood, and the hail missed us, thankfully, but it was covering the roads in the valley.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:54 AM
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17. we got your hail down in ATL
we got pummeled by it...rough 10 minutes or so...


theProdigal
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:11 AM
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20. I know, prodigal
I had to meet my youngest's papa in Dalton and he was an hour late. He said hail was covering the roads in Cobb.

Hope all is well for you.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:31 AM
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21. all is good weather-wise
I was convinced during the downpour that I was going to be getting a new paint job for the truck...fortunately nothing that severe happened in out little area...some places reported golf-ball sized hail...have seen that in Texas...never seen it here...

theProdigal
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 08:39 AM
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22. That's good to hear...
The other night, when there were tornadoes in LA ( or that's what I thought I heard?) my eleven-year-old asked, "Isn't this how 'The Day After Tomorrow' starts out?"

I had to chuckle.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:57 AM
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18. Good morning, Ripley. I have good news and bad news.
The bad news is that the weather is completely screwed. We need to hunker in the bunker and beseech Mother Earth for mercy. The good news is that it's too late to worry!

:hi:
dbt
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 10:57 AM
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25. Morning.
I'm dreading the tornado season which seems to last from March to December nowadays. Maybe I should build a bunker in the back yard! :hi:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:58 AM
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26. californians
are getting strange weather patterns too....are they manipulating the weather some? (taking off my :tinfoilhat:)
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