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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:08 PM
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SEND IN THE UNDERTRAINED: Rumsfeld plans cuts to officer training.
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 01:09 PM by paineinthearse
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Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld isn't working hard enough to ensure that our troops are properly equipped; now he's trying to rush them to war without sufficient training either. In a Jan. 31 memo, Rumsfeld "asked the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to provide options for cutting back military officer education during 'stress periods.'" Rumsfeld is exploring this option in order "to allow greater numbers to be available for deployment," yet another sign that the Army is understaffed for waging the dual wars in Iraq and Afghanistan while also training for unforeseen conflicts. The proposal has some uniformed military outraged, with one senior Army official commenting, "We're so good because of our professional education, and you can't eliminate it, postpone it or reduce it if you want a professional military." Unfortunately, Rumsfeld's plan is already being tested out; "the Army's 4th Infantry division has decided to pull 29 officers out of early to send them to Iraq."


Background - http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=269200

FAILURE TO PLAN = PLANNING TO FAIL: Eighteen months after President Bush declared major combat operations were over, soldiers, National Guardsmen and reservists lack essential equipment and armor to fight the war in Iraq. The U.S. Army announced Friday it would be increasing the production of armored Humvees for American troops in Iraq by 100 a month. The steps to boost production came "despite recent assertions from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that soldiers could not be supplied with safer vehicles because Pentagon officials could not procure them faster." Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) offered blistering criticism of the Secretary yesterday, saying, "I don't like the way he has done some things. I think they have been irresponsible. I don't like the way we went into Iraq. We didn't go into Iraq with enough troops. He's dismissed his general officers. He's dismissed all outside influence. He's dismissed outside counsel and advice. And he's dismissed a lot of inside counsel and advice from men and women who have been in military uniforms for 25 and 30 years." Rumsfeld's "irresponsible" policies have led to the lethal equipment shortage. As a result, the country's citizen soldiers are paying the price.

FAILURE TO PLAN MEANS LACK OF EQUIPMENT: Before the war, the White House was anxious to garner support from the American people for the invasion. As a result, the administration concentrated solely on a best-case scenario in which U.S. troops would be greeted by a grateful population and the conflict would end quickly with little expense or effort. As a result, the Army today doesn't have the equipment it needs. The Pentagon, for example, originally said it would need 235 armored Humvees in Iraq. In reality, it needs 8,105, or thirty-five times the amount it predicted before the war.

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http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050222-111908-6911r.htm

Military education sought to be cut in 'stress periods'
By Pamela Hess
UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL
Published February 23, 2005

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Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld has asked the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to provide options for cutting back military officer education during "stress periods" -- such as during the war in Iraq -- to allow greater numbers to be available for deployment. At the same time, the Army's 4th Infantry Division has decided to pull 29 officers out of its 10-month professional education curriculum early to send them to Iraq, said a Feb. 9 memo obtained by United Press International.

The 29 officers are being withdrawn a few weeks early from the Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., at the request of the commander of the division, who has a critical need for 32 more officers before he deploys to Iraq. The officers will receive full credit for having finished the course, a Pentagon official said. The college also will give up one instructor to the division for deployment, and two other officers have been identified in the field for the assignment.

The move is one more indication that the Army does not have sufficient numbers to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as prepare its officers for future conflict, said Pentagon and congressional sources close to the matter. "We're so good because of our professional education, and you can't eliminate it, postpone it or reduce it if you want a professional military," one senior Army officer said.

In a Jan. 31 memo, Mr. Rumsfeld directed Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to produce by mid-March options for reducing professional military education. "Let's come up with some options how we might shorten professional military education or abbreviate it during stress periods," Mr. Rumsfeld wrote in a short memo marked "for official use only." It went only to Gen. Myers and David Chu, defense undersecretary for personnel and readiness.

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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:13 PM
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1. Well, you just have to start illegal wars with the army you have.....
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 01:14 PM by grumpy old fart
or the army you have destroyed, rather than the army the ones sent to die would like to have.....
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:30 PM
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3. Dude---Nice!
Go to war with the army you have!

I'm laughing my ass off right now.

Well done!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:16 PM
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2. Small story
Naval Officers in ROTC were activated early (as in before graduation) after the second gulf war started. Some of those boys were POed as they wanted to become Sub Officers, but no degree in engineering means no chance to go on a sub....

I gave some of those kids the kind of advize they seldom hear... "listen to your Chiefs... learn from your Chiefs. They are truly the ones who run the ships."

two were paying attention, the third one I hope he learned fast or he probably had an unfortunate accident
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:37 PM
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5. By PO'd do you mean....
They were pissed off....

OR

They were not commissioned and made into Petty Officers?

Ex-QM1.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:39 PM
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6. Contact Pamela Hess
Get this info to the reporter...

http://about.upi.com/journalists/pamela_hess.jlst

Pamela Hess
UPI Pentagon Correspondent

Pamela Hess is UPI's Pentagon correspondent, a post she has filled since March 1999, with a brief sojourn as White House correspondent from May to September 2000.

Hess spent two months in Iraq in 2003, half of the time with the 1st Marine Division in south central Iraq and the second half in Baghdad and surrounding cities covering the reconstruction effort. In 2002 she spent a month in Afghanistan covering the Loya Jirga and U.S. military operations there.

Hess was a feature writer for George Magazine and has also published feature and opinion pieces in The Washington Post. She is a periodic guest on CNN's "Reliable Sources" and C-Span’s "Washington Journal," and has appeared on "The McLaughlin Group."

Prior to joining UPI, Hess was the chief editor of two independent investigative newsweeklies, "Inside the Air Force" and "Defense Information and Electronics Report." She shared an award for best exclusive news story for "DI&ER" in 1998 for breaking the news about the largest cyber attack ever on Defense Department computer networks, an attack that became known as Solar Sunrise.

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:31 PM
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4. Today's Army has to be quicker, better armed..........
and dumber in order to achieve the neo-con agenda. It's quite apparant that Rumfilled has no compassion for soldier's lives. His, "win at the lowest costs" attitude will start a Pentagon uprising, if it hasn't already. This is NO way to run an Army. That's what happens when you let a civilian shit like Rumfilled control our fighting forces.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:42 PM
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7. They need a much higher troop casualty rate...
...for their economic "plan" to work, so they want to make sure the people calling the shots can deliver, as well as be stupid enough to take the fall when an investigation comes around.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:43 PM
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8. Wouldn't it be just ridiculous to put them under 'duress' in training when
good old Iraq is just ready & waiting for them.

Rumsfield and his 'assumptions'. Gotta love someone who cut the invasion force in Iraq from 300 thousand to 150 thousand due to 'new assumptions' and still managed to keep his job. Those extra 150 thousand troops would surely have ended the insurgency and closed the boarders.

Love them neocon "efficiency experts".

:cry:
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