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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:37 PM
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A young man trained since childhood for a purpose.....
Are we seeing this again?

Recently i started looking into some of the Oswald/Kennedy theories. One was very compelling. The two Oswald story.

http://home.wi.rr.com/harveyandlee/Tooth/Tooth.htm


According to this story there were two seperate boys prepared for an ultimate purpose. Sounds CRAZY. At least this is what i thought. But regardless of what theory i read some distinct points kept leading me back to this Two Oswalds idea. It is well known that Oswald kept showing up in places he COULD not have possibly been. There are stories of a CIA mind control program sometimes called the Oswald Project.

As i read the threads on here about the Gannon Wrinkle i could not help feeling some similarities to this theory of Oswald. People kept repeating the question, why would he be allowed access to the WH.

What was the purpose of the Kennedy Assas.? The hope was that people would feel his death was an attack on America by groups our government wanted conflict with. At the same time Kennedy's death served to quiet a person the machine felt was a threat.

To those of us that believe MIHOP/LIHOP are possible, do you honestly think they would try something like 9/11 again? With people as unhappy with this administration as they are it would be suicide. Yet what if there WAS another MIHOP/LIHOP that did not harm Americans. What if it gave a false sense of security to the dissenters while prompting the sheep to support revenge for the attack?

Something to think about. The arrest of the Virginia man served to place a link between Al Quaida and another attack. Very similar to Cuba and Kennedy. Anyone else seeing this?



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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:40 PM
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1. The Virginia arrest was just LAME!
It was a desperate grasp at a thin straw...certainly NOT the result of any long-term planning!

Bear in mind, I am _NOT_ disagreeing about L.H. Oswald...helluva lotta very odd questions about his life & history!
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:46 PM
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3. What if that was just to set up a link?
It feels very suspicious that Al Quaida is being tossed around again in connection with another DIRECT attack attempt on America. Is this kid involved in something like this? I think not. If he is not WHY would our government want us to believe this is true?

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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:44 PM
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2. I'm confused...help me out....what do you mean by "2"
2 Gannons?
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:46 PM
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4. Have you read the Gannon Wrinkle threads?
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:48 PM
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5. Wow... never heard that
Thanks! It doesn't say anything about what happened to the real Lee Harvey Oswald though. He must be right next to Jimmy Hoffa.

As for the VA guy. They held him in Saudi Arabia for 2 years without charging him and all of a sudden they pull him out when they need him. It's very questionable to me.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:57 PM
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6. So, a different Lee Harvey Oswald was shot and killed in...
...the Dallas jail that morning? Anything is possible, but this was supposedly discovered and put into the records in 1981. Why then, did Jim Garrison, the only prosecuter to bring charges in the murder of JFK and the person who back in 1967 or thereabouts, not reopen the investigation and possibly the trial on this discovery, I wonder?
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:08 PM
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7. Garrison has mentioned this poss.
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 02:30 PM by mordarlar
Photos of Oswald show two VERY SIMILAR yet very DIFFERENT men. Since childhood these two people were shuffled according to this theory. One was shorter than the other. At times Oswald would return to school after a break and actually be SHORTER than he would have been when he left. Also there are records of young Lee H Oswalds in more than one state at the same time. This happens OVER AND OVER.

Garrison has made a comment stating that he believes Oswald's brother noticed that the Oswald that returned from Russia was not his brother.


The above link shows photos of the Two Oswalds. It would be easy to believe it is the same man. But if you look closely one has a broader forehead than the other. A shorter face. Eyes look very similar. At first i just believed it was age difference. These two photos are only 4 yrs apart. Also here is a compilation of Oswald photos.



Row two pic 2 and 4, row 4 pic 1 and 2 and row 5 pic one seem to be one man. But it is notIMO the same man as the one arrested in Dallas that day. The Oswald arrested is clearly in several of the other pics.

A woman at an employment agency in Tx interviewed Oswald two times within months of each other. She says she spoke to two different men.

The Warren Commission compiled data from of what appears to be two young men into the life of one. While they were investigating a memo was sent stating that there would have to be "alterations" made in the history. This is because Oswald kept showing up in two separate places at the same time. When Oswald was around 15 he told a young friend that he was going to kill a president one day. The friend asked how he knew which one. Oswald replied that the time and place would be set before him.

The link above contains a lot of info. At the bottom of the page it has links to the other pages. Mind bending stuff.
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blueheeler Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:10 PM
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I have seen bond too.
I have thought about these things recently but do not have a huge knowledge of the whole JFK story. The thing that does get me is the names. Bush in the CIA, The Bay of Pigs, Nixon, Watergate, Liddy, Rumsfeld, Cheney. I posted this link on another thread earlier and I think it needs to be seen by many people.
http://www.politicalmonitor.us/blog/_archives/2005/2/21/341875.html

Look at the part about the Council for National Policy. Look at the names of the people involved. This is a tax funded organization and it is some of the biggest fundamental cons you can get together, I am sure there is a lot going on there that should not be paid for by us!!!

Look at the names!!!
:wow:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:23 PM
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10. Those names ought to be listed here in this thread, so here they
...are from that same link:

<snip>

The Council for National Policy (CNP) is a secretive forum, which was first formed in 1981, for leading US conservative political leaders, financiers and religous right activist leaders to organize their respective agendas.

While those involved are from the United States, their organizations and influence cover the globe, both religiously and politically. Members include corporate executives, television evangelists, legislators, former military or high ranking government officers, leaders of 'think tanks' dedicated to molding society and those who many view as "Christian" leadership. Members in many cases are owners or leaders from industry such as lumber, oil, mining, commodities, real estate, the media, including owners of radio, television and print, with all aspects of life covered. Many are involved in education, determining to influence society's direction by direct input with children and youth.

<snip>

Board of Directors
The 2002 calendar year Form 990 return filed with the IRS lists the board of Directors as:

Donald Paul Hodel President (former Secretary of Energy and former president of the Christian Coalition)
T. Kenneth Cribb Jr Vice President
James C Miller, III, Chairman
John Seribante, Secretary/Treasurer
Robert Fischer Director,
Dr Dal Shealy, Director
Howard Phillips Director
Ken Raasch Director
Mary Reilly Hunt Director
Stuart W Epperson, Director
Ann Drexel Director (also a Red Cross board member)
Becky Norton Dunlop Director
Jerome Ledzinski Director
Grover Norquist Director
E Peb Jackson Director
Staff members of the Board of Directors are:

Steve Baldwin Executive Director (paid $157,391 in 2002)
David Fenner, Director of MIS & Programs (paid $89,088 in 2002)
Jennifer Rutledge Director of Finance & Administration (paid $57,504 in 2002)

Other members
Council for National Policy membership roster, last updated July 2001.
Member Directory.

A copy of the membership roster obtained by Institute for First Amendment Studies, listed current and former members as including:


Attorney General John Ashcroft (former member)
Tommy Thompson,Health and Human Services Secretary (former member)
Holland Coors and Jeffrey Coors of the Coors brewing company
Richard DeVos (Orlando Magic owner and founder of Amway)
John Ankerberg, who believes that biblical prophecies were literal promises and are coming true;
Dave Breese, who hosts The King Is Coming, a show devoted entirely to Christian eschatology.
Chuck Missler, an Idaho radio host who has predicted an imminent invasion of Jerusalem by forces guided by the Antichrist.
Pat Robertson former presidential candidate and Christian Coalition founder;
Steve Stockman former Texas Republican Representative
Rev. Don Wildmon of the American Family Association.
Rev. Rousas J. Rushdoony founder of Chalcedon Foundation. (deceased)
Alvin Williams, the founder of BAMPAC
Sam Moore, president of Thomas Nelson, the country's most successful Christian book publishing company.
Henry Morris Prominent creationist
Dora Kingsley political scientist
John W. Whitehead founder of the Rutherford Institute
Bob Jones III President, Bob Jones University
Phyllis Schlafly
Oliver North
Other members who list their membership in their biographical profiles include:

John Taylor, the chairman and president of the Virginia Institute for Public Policy <14>
Brent Bozell <15>
Mark Crispin Miller adds the following members:


Tom DeLay
Trent Lott
Lock Faircloth
Ed Meese
Howard Ahmanson
Jerry Falwell
Tim Lehay, Author of the Left Behind Series,
James Robison
Lou Sheldon, traditional values coalition
Rev. Sun Myung Moon

Addressed the CNP:

John Ashcroft
George W. Bush, 2000

Wanna see who helps pay for all this? Okay, here ya go....

CNP is a 501c3 non-profit organisation. For the year ending December 31, 2002, CNP income was $1,240,377. <16>.

According to Media Transparency between 1995 and 2002 the CNP received $125,000 (unadjusted for inflation) from the Richard and Helen DeVos Foundation and the Castle Rock Foundation. In 2000 the Castle Rock Foundation paid a membership fee of $10,000. <17>

DeVos Foundation is funded by Amway billionnaire founder

Castle Rock Foundation is funded by Coors billionnaire
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blueheeler Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:31 PM
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12. This last part of the list...
Is what gets me and makes me shiver

Tom DeLay
Trent Lott
Lock Faircloth
Ed Meese
Howard Ahmanson
Jerry Falwell
Tim Lehay, Author of the Left Behind Series,
James Robison
Lou Sheldon, traditional values coalition
Rev. Sun Myung M


This is the tribe of the New World Order people. This is the reconstructionist agenda and it is being footed by the tax payers!!!!
:tinfoilhat:


I just see commonalities between the names in the Gannon scandle, watergate, this group. It has been building for decades and who knows if it can be stopped. I hope I am not crazy!!!:freak:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:44 PM
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14. Right, these are members of the Christian Taliban that is for...
....certain!
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:10 PM
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8. I see more similarities
between 9/11 and the Reichstag fire...
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blueheeler Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:24 PM
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11. And How!!!
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:11 PM
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9. Have you thought out blackmail?
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:43 PM
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13. Yes, i looked at that. It is clear there is more to Gannon than meets the
eye. This is why it reminds me so strongly of Oswald.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:01 PM
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16. But first we have to get through some dead ends....
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 02:51 PM
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15. Witness in plot to kill Bush is dead!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:04 PM
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17. as far as the names go
have you ever googled your own name?
I found this guy with my name, who looked a little bit like me and who was living in the same state and going to the same school, although he was ten years younger than me. Different middle initial though.
In the 1930 census, there are 9 Lee Oswalds. My name is more common, with 41 entries, but the name Leonard Oswald is more common than mine.
Two guys with the same name, even if they are in the same town, do not a conspiracy make.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:08 PM
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18. Except that the they were both sent to schools as the SAME PERSON....
and the Warren Commission used BOTH histories to compile the history of Oswald that was in the report.
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