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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:02 PM
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Question re: Kansas official demanding complete medical records
for 90 women (as told here http://www.comcast.net/News/DOMESTIC//XML/1110_AP_Online_Regional___National__US_/ec0abd53-371a-4655-aa4e-090deff96dbf.html )

How does this differ from prosecutors procuring Limbaugh's medical records as part of their investigation?

Can we assume that if Limbaugh objected to his medical records being released as part of such an investigation that he would also object to these women having their complete medical records released (even those portions having no bearing whatsoever on the issue at hand)?

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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:05 PM
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1. You are forgetting that great technological invention...
The Republican Hyper-Cortex Reversing Valve, designed to eliminate stresses caused by rampant hypocrisy.

Rush was one of the first to have one of these babies installed, and hasn't looked back since.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:06 PM
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2. Sounds like the Fundies
have got their way there in good ol' red KS. What a waste of taxpayers' money. I don't want to give you any ideas, KS rednecks, but will you be tracking people's condom buying habits next?
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:08 PM
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3. Limbaugh -- committed a crime -- he has a witness -- his maid
These women had a procedure -- which is used in 95% of cases to save the life of the woman.

You must be a male -- this is a male type view.

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:14 PM
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5. I think you miss the point entirely.
The point is that their records should NOT be released under any circumstances, but in the view of someone like Limpballs, their records should be released. In either event, they are attempting to obtain records based on what they allege is a legitimate investigation (yes, in Limbaugh's case, it is legitimate, not so in Kansas), but for Rush to be able to support his own tenuous position, he most stand up for the rights of ANYONE to have their records protected, otherwise it yet again proves his hypocrisy.

Save your holier-than-thou attitude for someone else.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:43 PM
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10. I am so very tired of the "abortion" debate tied to
any other issue.

Limbaugh is in a league all by himself -- and you are comparing apples and oranges.

Limbaugh is an arm of the GOP -- and has set himself up as a holier -- than -- thou -- moralist. But we know this is a lie.

As far as I am concerned -- an alien growth in a female's body has nothing at all to do with the free will consumption of drugs -- that Limbaugh stands accused of doing.

This is a linkage that a male would make. Sorry if you take offense to this remark -- but this happens to be a hot button issue with me. I remember when abortion used to be illegal.

Now admittedly the vast majority of women welcome the alien growth and look forward to seeing the parasite -- and some of these parasites turn into rather nice human being. But the biological fact remains that offspring are energy and physical resource draining of the female/mother -- thus can be classified as parasites.

This isn't directed at you personally (you are a responsible cat parent -- and I love your kitties and seeing their photos).
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:51 AM
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11. LOL . . .Are you really so blinded by your pet cause that you can't
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 05:53 AM by ET Awful
recognize a rhetorical and satirical post when you see one?

Once again, the post was a satirical post written to point out how hypocritical the position of people like Limbaugh is.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:39 AM
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13. I suggest you read the DU thread in the link below
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3174685&mesg_id=3174685

Women are sharing some powerful stories about what it was like when abortions were illegal.

There just is NO comparison between the two issues you brought up.

I also have talked to a doctor who watched one of her patients die because of an illegal abortion and the idiot husband and father refused to allow her to have a blood transfusion.

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:01 AM
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15. We are talking medical records being seized NOT abortion
Don't you Get It? It doesn't really have anything to do with abortion. It has to do with the government seizing medical records. Limbaugh had his seized and fought it tooth and nail. Will he also fight against the seizure of these medical records? We all doubt it here because he is nothing but a hypocritical sob.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:13 PM
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4. Filthy pigs. Witch hunting perverts. Sickos who get off on teen sex.
Pawing over those files would be porn to them.
I hope they rot in hell.
:puke:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:17 PM
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6. Great Point ETA
And when did a Kansas official trump the U. S. Constitution? I guess he is in Kansas after all. Per limbaugh; conservatives are not responsible for anything and laws do not apply to them. Fortunately, because of badass liberal motherfuckers like me, that will soon change.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:17 PM
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7. it is a gross violation of privacy
an abortion is a legal procedure. Procuring prescription drugs by obtaining a number of prescriptions so that the drugs can be abused is a criminal offense. That is the difference.

If there were instances of child abuse, sexual molestation, or rape, they were to be reported - heck, even a hint of such things are to be reported by anyone, doctors, daycare workers, teachers, etc, etc. So this is really a fishing expedition designed to make a woman think twice before obtaining an abortion in Kansas, imho.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:19 PM
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8. Of course it is, or even more insidious is the possibility
that they are gathering information for future use in a "The Handmaids Tale" style purge. (If you've read the book you'll understand, if not, to put it briefly, women who had previously had abortions were subject to extremely harsh treatment).
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:47 PM
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9. I think they call the law HIPPA
http://www.hrsa.gov/website.htm

What right is the Republican asking or demanding these health records for ? Is it just a McCarthy style witch hunt ? Apparently so.

Isn't probable cause and a warrant required first ? Who are these domestic terrorists ?
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:55 AM
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12. HIPPA
exempts state laws -- aka, the state still can have access if they require it.

It also loosen's federal laws -- medical records have to be turned over on demand to the secret service and some other federal agencies.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:58 AM
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14. On the 'discretion' of what federal officer within those agencies ?
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 09:59 AM by EVDebs
It all comes down to a person making a choice. Furthermore, no immediate public health dangers that I can see, nor threat to any national security issues even if abortion were the end result...so why federal intervention ?

"Under color of authority" -- this is how the rightwingnuts are abusing federal agencies discretion. Nixon was impeached for doing this...
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:05 AM
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16. It's HIPAA
Just to be a nitpicker. I work with it every day in my job as an editor for a healthcare company.
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