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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:38 AM
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You gotta hand it to Osama, he got away with it, & he's still out there
and more or less forgotten except for the occassional reluctant mention, but only as an afterthought.

osama one, bush zero. pitiful. and the monkey got re elected, to use a tired and meaningless phrase.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:41 AM
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1. Have you considered the possibility, no probability, that Osama
is a creation of the disinformation campaign launched by Bush to advance his agenda of endless wars?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:41 AM
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2. yes, the fact that they gave up the search PROVES who's behind it
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 06:46 AM by mopaul
to me anyway
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:51 AM
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3. And the beautiful thing from their persepective is that if we make this an
issue, they will trot out someone with Osama's likeness as the culprit
in 9/11.We can't win. They command the discourse.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:54 AM
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4. "c.i.a. claims latest osama tape authentic"
and the hits just keep on comin', osama's latest tape is out! every couple months he has a new tape! my fave was right before halloween and the 'election', that one was reeeeeeeeel scary.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:20 PM
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14. And didn't ObL look clean, prestine and oh so healthy,...
,...in that last mass-media produced video?

Hell, even George has more blemishes and bruises than this ObL fella' has.

Makes one go HMMMMMM>
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:00 PM
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42. obl a complete load of bs
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 05:02 PM by natrat
they pull the obl tape out right before the election with that cheney monster in the backround screaming terror terror terror---whatever--seems like it may take a generation to wise up to it all
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:55 AM
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5. And me too.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:20 AM
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37. LOOK AT THIS:
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iswitched Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:11 PM
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43. I have
and further why is he assumed to be alive simply because his dead body has not been found? Over 1100 bodies from 9/11 WTC disaster have not been id'd but they are dead anyway. Why hasn't he come forward and made a clear video and held up a current newspaper for date verification? I believe the possibility definitely exists that this man is history. It definitely benefits Bush to have people believe this and also benefits the terrorists to think of him as an American failure in this war.
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billkurtmeyer Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:53 AM
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6. Played Bush like a cheap fiddle - He must be amazed by the stupidity of
Bush. I mean Bush handing him up a recruitting campaign he could have never created.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 08:07 AM
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7. actually, you have that backwards, IMHO. Bush(Rove) played Osama
against the US population to get everything they wanted. Have you ever read 1984? The creation of an elusive anti-govt. mastercriminal to distract the general population from how they're getting raped by the govt. and as justification for never-ending war.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 08:39 AM
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8. I'm with you I think BushCo was a predictable enemy.
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 08:41 AM by DistressedAmerican
Been saying it for some time now as these two graphics attest:





ON EDIT: MOPAUL, I LOVE YOUR WORK! HAVE FOR A LONG TIME. IT WAS ONE OF MY MOTIVATORS TO GET BUSY MYSELF! LOTS OF TALENTED FOLKS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. THANKS!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:07 PM
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9. way kewl
some folks are paying attention.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:12 PM
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10. just like most of the crooks in the bushgang
they did it


they got away with it


they're still out there
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:15 PM
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11. I'd like to hand it to him. Where is the "Holy Handgrenade" I
wonder? Four more years of these thugs draining the treasury, getting away with their murderous behavior, corruption unexposed while he hides in a cave, and the sheeple just going along.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:16 PM
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12. Osam bin Hussein has been captured...
Hasn't he?
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charles_nys Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:32 PM
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33. Bin Laden is dead
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 10:38 PM by charles_nys
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:17 PM
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13. Osama is our first future black President.
Dean/Osama or Osama/Dean in '08!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:26 PM
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16. the dreaded Ted Kennedy Syndrome strikes again.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:28 PM
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17. Which one is that? Speaking eloquantly before Congress? Drinking?
I don't get your remark.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:30 PM
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18. Silly Bunt.
Oops, I'm retarded. I was thinking "Obama" and typing "Osama."
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:21 PM
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15. I hope Osama rots in Hell! n/t
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:31 PM
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19. Why?
What did he ever do to you?
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:41 PM
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23. You can't be serious???
:wtf:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:43 PM
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25. I'm dead serious
Will you please answer my question now?
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:31 PM
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26. 9-11
Satisfied?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:57 PM
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29. Not even close to satisfied
There has not been one shred of evidence given to the world that Osama bin Laden was the perp behind 9/11.

Not one shred!

If by some miracle you have some evidence no one else does, please provide it here.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:38 PM
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20. Usama bin Forgotten popped into my head the other day too. Methinks
he may yet be the October Surprise, it's just that he will be the 2008 October Surprise. More to the point it hit me that bush* is leaving that ace(hole) up his sleeve as a final "legacy" statement. I suspect that ubl will be "found"/"captured"/"killed" on 3/11/08.

Why such a specific date? I'm glad you asked. Well 9/11/08 works better for the "election" but is waaaayyyyy too blatant for the intended "legacy" effect. 3/11/08 will be the anniversay of the Spain bombings, and is far enough out to allow for the bush* years retrospective shows that will cover from 9/11/01 - 3/11/08 to be finalized and aired constantly from 1 week prior to the 08 gop convention up to and including a 24 hour marathon on 11/04/08.

bookmark this and check back in about 3 years


fob
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:39 PM
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21. He's been dead since December 23, 2001 and didn't perp 911 to begin
with.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:43 PM
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28. You're quite ure of that?
:eyes:
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:09 PM
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31. absolutely no doubt in my mind whatsoever....
in any way, shape or form.

I absolutely know these things to be true, to the core of my being.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:49 AM
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34. Even him claiming responsibility doesn't sway you?
The fact that Osama himself publicly stated on Friday, Oct. 29th, 2004 that he masterminded the attacks the 9-11 attacks doesn't impress you?

:eyes:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:10 AM
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35. And we are certain that is Osama, how? Wag the dog....... n/t
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:18 AM
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36. I think the evidence supports the conclusion.
Are we certain, you ask? Well, short of making a DNA comparison, the answer has to be 'no'. However, it is entirely reasonable to assume that it is him, there being no evidence to the contrary.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:32 PM
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39. Kick
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:12 PM
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44. What evidence?
A doctored tape put out when whistle ass' numbers were falling?

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:53 PM
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46. I personally don't think that it looked like him. I have compared photos,
and even with the dialysis treatment, there were differences in his features. Anyway, how can we trust what comes out of an administration that feeds us lies about everything all the time?
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:30 PM
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40. took him long enough
It took him over 3 years to get around to saying (allegedly) "I did it"?

Jeez. Slacker.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:31 PM
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48. Oh he did no such thing. He said he knew about the attacks, but vehemently
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 09:35 PM by radwriter0555
denied having any part of it.

and I quote "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

And 'translation' by the bush regime doesn't qualify a thing for me... especially considering their rather dubious track record.

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OneMind Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:03 PM
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30. Bingo.
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 07:51 PM by OneMind
Osama "Roly-Poly, Dark-Skinned and Healthy" bin Laden (Photo E), from the December 2001 "9/11 confession tape." Right-handed (Osama was left-handed).




Osama "The Uncharacteristically Dapperly Attired" bin Laden frpm the 2004 "October Surprise" U.S. presidential election video. Right-handed (Osama was left-handed).





News of bin Laden's death and funeral from an Egyptian newspaper, December 26, 2001.




Israeli intelleigence, Pakistan President Musharraf and others confirm bin Laden's severe illness, admittance to an American hospital in Dubai and death.

http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/



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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:25 AM
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38. That's a REALLY credible source.
Right up there with Newsmax and the Flat Earth Society's website.

:eyes:

http://www.welfarestate.com/
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OneMind Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 06:38 PM
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47. "Oh Lucy! - You Gotta Lotta 'Splainin To Do"
Perhaps you'll find these sources more credible.


------------------------------------------------------------

"Oh Lucy! - You Gotta Lotta
'Splainin To Do"

by Michael C. Ruppert



------------------------------------------------------------


Michael Ruppert's timeline includes 103 entries. Following are a selection of excerpts from that timeline (sources not listed). The link to the full article, timeline and all 103 entries (with sources listed) is here: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_11_02_lucy.html



17. May 2001 - Secretary of State Colin Powell gives $43 million in aid to the Taliban regime, purportedly to assist hungry farmers who are starving since the destruction of their opium crop in January on orders of the Taliban regime.


18. May 2001 - Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, a career covert operative and former Navy Seal, travels to India on a publicized tour, while CIA Director George Tenet makes a quiet visit to Pakistan to meet with Pakistani leader Gen. Pervez Musharraf. Armitage has long and deep Pakistani intelligence connections. It would be reasonable to assume that while in Islamabad, Tenet, in what was described as "an unusually long meeting," also met with his Pakistani counterpart, Lt. Gen. Mahmud Ahmad, head of the ISI.


24. summer 2001 (est.) - Pakistani ISI Chief Gen. Ahmad (see above) orders an aide to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammed Atta who was, according to the FBI, the lead terrorist in the suicide hijackings. Ahmad recently resigned after the transfer was disclosed in India and confirmed by the FBI. The individual who makes the wire transfer at Ahmad's direction is Ahmad Umar Sheik, the lead suspect in the kidnapping and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.


30. July 4-14, 2001 - Osama bin Laden receives treatment for kidney disease at the American hospital in Dubai and meets with a CIA official, who returns to CIA headquarters on July 15.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/Le Figaro_osama_dubai.html


46. Sept. 1-10 2001 - In an exercise, called Operation "Swift Sword" and planned for four years, 23,000 British troops are steaming toward Oman. Although the 9-11 attacks caused a hiccup in the deployment, the massive operation was implemented as planned. At the same time two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive on station in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast. Also at the same time, some 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation "Bright Star." All of these forces are in place before the first plane hits the WTC.



49. Sept. 7, 2001 - Florida Governor Jeb Bush signs a two-year emergency executive order (01-261) making new provisions for the Florida National Guard to assist law enforcement and emergency-management personnel in the event of large civil disturbances, disaster or acts of terrorism.


50. Sept. 6-7, 2001 - Put options (a speculation that the stock will go down) totaling 4,744 are purchased on United Air Lines stock, as opposed to only 396 call options (speculation that the stock will go up). This is a dramatic and abnormal increase in sales of put options. Many of the United puts are purchased through Deutschebank/A.B. Brown, a firm managed until 1998 by the current executive director of the CIA, A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard. http://www.ict.org.il/, Sept. 21, 2001 (Note:The ICT article on possible terrorist insider trading appeared eight days *after* the 9/11 attacks.); The New York Times; The Wall Street Journal; The San Francisco Chronicle, Sept. 29, 2001>


51. Sept. 10, 2001 - Put options totaling 4,516 are purchased on American Airlines as compared to 748 call options.


52. Sept. 6-11, 2001 - No other airlines show any similar trading patterns to those experienced by United and American. The put option purchases on both airlines were 600 percent above normal. This at a time when Reuters (Sept. 10) issues a business report stating, "Airline stocks may be poised to take off."


53. Sept. 6-10, 2001 - Highly abnormal levels of put options are purchased in Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re(insurance) which owns 25 percent of American Airlines, and Munich Re. All of these companies are directly impacted by the Sept. 11 attacks. FTW, Oct. 18, 2001, http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/oct152001.html]


63. Sept. 11, 2001 - Gen. Mahmud of the ISI (see #24), friend of Mohammed Atta, is visiting Washington on behalf of the Taliban. He is meeting with the Chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., and Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla.,

Let's repeat that last one again for emphasis: Sept. 11, 2001 - Gen. Mahmud of the ISI (see #24), friend of Mohammed Atta, is visiting Washington on behalf of the Taliban. He is meeting with the Chairmen of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., and Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla.,

This is Gen. Mahmud, the Pakistani ISI Chief, who ordered an aide to wire transfer $100,000 to Mohammed Atta.


64. Sept. 11, 2001 - Employees of Odigo, Inc. in Israel, one of the world's largest instant messaging companies with offices in New York, receive threat warnings of an imminent attack on the WTC less than two hours before the first plane hits. Law enforcement authorities have gone silent about any investigation of this. The Odigo research and development offices in Israel are located in the city of Herzliyya, a ritzy suburb of Tel Aviv that is the same location as the Institute for Counter Terrorism, which eight days later reports details of insider trading on 9-11.


65. Sept. 11, 2001 - For 50 minutes, from 8:15 AM until 9:05 AM, with it widely known within the FAA and the military that four planes have been simultaneously hijacked and taken off course, no one notifies the President of the United States. It is not until 9:30 that any Air Force planes are scrambled to intercept, but by then it is too late. This means that the National Command Authority waited for 75 minutes before scrambling aircraft, even though it was known that four simultaneous hijackings had occurred.


71. Oct. 10, 2001 - The Pakistani newspaper The Frontier Post reports that U.S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain has paid a call on the Pakistani oil minister. A previously abandoned Unocal gas pipeline project from Turkmenistan, across Afghanistan, to Pakistan is now back on the table "in view of recent geopolitical developments."

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independentchristian Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:41 PM
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22. Osama bin Laden "got away with it"?
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 05:42 PM by independentchristian
The Bush family is close to the bin Laden family, okay?

You don't think he "knows" Osama as well, lol?

He's probably been to a picnic or two with him. :pals:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:41 PM
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24. Osama's out there? Don't be so sure.
Considering the White House security clearance procedure, he could be on staff. Anyone notice that janitor with the long beard???
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:39 PM
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27. Someone Else who is still OUT THERE!!!!
The mastermind and all members of the Terrorist Group that attacked Washington DC with biological WMD (anthrax) in 2001.

To Date: None captured, no leads.

Summary of bush protection of US!

1) 9-11 Attack, Masterminds still at large.

2) WMD attack on DC 2001, Mastermind and terrorist gang still at large.

george bush* grade on terrorism: F
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:14 PM
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32. Just another friend of the family, the BFEE. Like Kenny-Boy Lay.

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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 04:40 PM
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41. We ain't gonna spend that Ace we may need him
if them Democrats start picking up steam.
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indypaul Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:16 PM
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45. Not just O B L
Ken Lay still running around loose as well as the
Anthrax mailer. Of course the anthrax was just
directed to working class people and Democrats.
Nothing here folks, just keep moving.
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