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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 08:55 AM
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Is it as simple as live for today, the hell with tomorrow for Republicans?
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 08:59 AM by trumad
Is it simply the pocketbook for Republicans? Dismantle all social programs, WHY? Less taxes, more in their pockets. The hell with the environment. WHY? more development, more money in their pockets. Less regulation of the environment, the workplace, and in Public Government. WHY? More money in their pockets. Unnecessary wars? WHY? More money in their pockets.

Is this the main tenet of Republicanism? Make as much money as they can during their life and the hell with anything that may come after they're dead?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 08:57 AM
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1. It's like this quarter's bottom line
is the only thing that matters to corporations. They don't care about long-term issues.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:02 AM
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2. The folks in control can move their money offshore with a few clicks.
And bring it back to buy stuff for pennies on the dollar.

They want to keep most Americans less likely to find work, and they want to make sure that most Americans earn less over the long term.

The tricky part is making most Americans happy with this lot in life, but hire out a few people to keep wedge issues alive, and presto! changeo! it's done.

Repeat until the pitchforks and torches come out, by which time most of them have flown off.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:04 AM
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3. For neocons and Rapturist Right: the answer is YES
This is the difference between the old-school Rockefeller Republicans and the nutjobs now in control of the GOP. I have found that, besides the efungelicals, the next most obnoxious group are the new Republicans. They have no understanding of fiscal responsibility or any understanding of a general responsibility for the greater good of society. They are the "new money" people who often came from humble backgrounds and think that they are now part of the rich. They have no concept of what "rich" really means but actually think they are part of the wealthy class.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:10 AM
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4. Ironically, these are the ones who call SS a "ponzi scheme."
They're too thickheaded to realize that little peons like themselves are the ones who'll face financial ruin down the road if we continue to allow RW pricks to run this country.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:18 AM
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5. The Republican credo "mine, mine,mine"
They are totally arrested at an ego-centric level. Their view of existence is that they are the center of everything. The Universe was put create for their use, solely that. In Freudian terms, their personality development is at about the level of an eight year old.

Among the problems with "mine,mine, mine" is that it is so out of touch with the facts of existence that they lose their natural survival skills as they disregard certain important aspects of their context.
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TN al Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:30 AM
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6. A lot of the christian right believes...
...that we are living in the end days. Therefore there is no need to concern yourslf with tomorrow.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:34 AM
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7. But if they really thing these are the "end times"
why do they need so much money? I mean what does it matter? If they really think the world is ending, they should be praying 24/7! Slight disconnect there...
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TN al Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:44 AM
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9. They need so much money to show us all that...
...God has favored them.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:36 AM
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8. Search back in the archives...
For a rant/piece I posted here called "Cocaine Ethics". It's rough and could be smoothed out a lot, but I believe the gist of what I wrote in that piece more today than I did when I wrote it.

Repuke Party: Where the cocaine dealers went, when they stopped dealing.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:45 AM
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10. I think your trying to paint with too broad of a Brush.
The breakdown as I see it:

1) Your top RW leadership, this goes beyond CEOs. These are the PNAC type folks that have a global and national vision of what they want.. their 'dream world'. They believe in this no government programs etc bull as if it was a religion.

2) Business owners, small and large. They are RW for two reasons.. first and foremost is money. The second is the more power the RW has then the result will be further weakening of labor power. The weaker the labor power, cheaper the wages etc you get the idea, back to first reason.

3) Nut cases - your fundies etc, not much to talk about here, the rapture etc you've heard it all before. Go back 100 years and you can find the same loons selling everything they own heading to some unknown farm to wait out 'the last day of the world' following some nut preacher.

4) White collar upper middle class. Whats to say here..? Wife and husband usually both work, pulling in the median salary each they are pretty flush with cash. These are the folks with the two SUVs, 250k house etc. They dont' care about any safety nets because they at least for now live in arrogance, probably had parents who were middle class maybe a notch lower then them, never been poor. See Johnson County Kansas for a great example of this.

5) Blue collar, working class RW voters(our lost votes) - A good source for this is "Whats the Matter with Kansas?" A really good book by Thomas Frank. These are people who have every reason in the world to vote Democrat but they don't. Why not? The theory is that given the choice between the two parties the Democratic party will essentially be the same as Republican's economically so they vote RW due to the perception of better 'morals'. Since they aren't going to gain economically they go values.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:59 AM
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11. Good breakdown.
Your 4th group,
White collar upper middle class. Whats to say here..? Wife and husband usually both work, pulling in the median salary each they are pretty flush with cash. These are the folks with the two SUVs, 250k house etc. They dont' care about any safety nets because they at least for now live in arrogance, probably had parents who were middle class maybe a notch lower then them, never been poor. See Johnson County Kansas for a great example of this. is a group where I actually see the Democrats making inroads.

Specifically with the upper-middle class who came from long established upper-middle class backgrounds. I know a lot of 'republicans for Kerry' in my circles who are voting Dem...can't stand the social regressive types/fiscally irresponsible.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 12:15 PM
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12. Republican: Live for ME, the hell with everyone else
couple that with the fact that ME won't live forever, and we get your observation
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