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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:40 PM
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Andrew Sullivan agrees with Gannon/Guckert
http://www.andrewsullivan.com/

...The substantive case against Gannon is trivial; the irrelevant case against him (the one that's fueled this story) is that he's gay, has allegedly been (or still may be) a prostitute, and may not agree with everything the gay left believes (although I agree with David Corn that the evidence that Gannon has written anything even remotely "anti-gay" is laughable). The real scandal is the blatant use of homophobic rhetoric by the self-appointed Savonarolas of homo-left-wingery....


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Looks like Andrew is still bitter at the homo-lefties for exposing his hypocrisy (when his internet ads looking for bareback sex were exposed)...
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:42 PM
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1. Andrew had ads for bareback sex? Do tell!
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:45 PM
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6. Yes, dish!!
I haven't heard of the "bareback sex" ads.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:53 PM
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13. I dug up the info myself
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:59 PM
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15. Thanks ohio_liberal
That is indeed both funny and sickening.
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:59 PM
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16. Andrew's sex scandal had similarities to Guckert/Gannon
both had revealed naked pictures in their internet ads...

Guckert was selling sex for money, Andrew was looking for bareback sex, knowing that he was HIV+ (although he revealed this fact in his ads). But he was being hypocritical just like Guckert - blaming gays for irresponsible sexual behavior, yet acting recklessly himself.

No wonder, Andrew sympathizes with Ganon/Guckert.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:09 PM
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18. Do tell!
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:09 PM
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17. From your link

"His supporters have also argued that it was a violation of his privacy to publish information about his sex life."

So let me get this straight. It's OK for Sullivan to criticize Clinton's sex life but it's a "violation of privacy" when someone criticizes Sullivan's sex life? Uh, OK. I think I'm starting to see a pattern here...
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:42 PM
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2. Oh, Andy can just go suck eggs!
He well knows of the hypocrisy upon which we speak.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:42 PM
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3. Andrew Sullivan obviously knows something I don't.
I don't know Jeff Gannon, and I don't know ANYTHING about his personal life -- including whether he's gay or not.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:46 PM
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7. We know very little about Gannons' personal life...
Only about his various professions.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:44 PM
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4. The gannon story is turning into a good test for the dellusional media.
The complete inability of so many people to accept the facts of the case is astounding.
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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:44 PM
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5. I never understood Andrew Sullivan
I see him once in a while on Bill Maher's show. The guy is openly gay and admits that he thinks Bush's policies toward homosexuals are wrong, yet votes Repuke anyway.
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fresnobill314 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:46 PM
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8. Does this this really surprise anyone?
Sullivan is just one more "Roy Cohn" GOP parasite toeing the party line. He is Ann Coulter without a dick, that's all.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:58 PM
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14. ann coulter without a dick?
priceless. bet andy is one of jeff's clients.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:47 PM
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9. It's his generals not his genitals ! Operation Mockingbird is still
in effect. Media manipulation and propaganda are de riguer ! Didn't you get the memo ?

You aren't even allowed to mention 'the program they dare not speak its name'.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:48 PM
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10. What ARE "Savonarolas of homo-left-wingery??"
What is he talking about?!?

Can't these people understand that the guy was NOT a journalist? He did NOT work for a real news source? He did NOT have any credentials? And his so-called "personal life" involved breaking the law?

Let's say he was a hetero who sold shoes, and got into the briefings. Same thing, except it's legal and his websites wouldn't be pornographic. Would they look into it then? Or would they say we hate shoes?

Okay, let's say he was a hetero Democrat who sold shoes and shilled for a Democratic group and asked questions like, "The preznit is talking about spreading democracy throughout the middle east by bombing it; how can Europe work with people like him who are divorced from reality?" Oh yeah... THEN it'd be an issue.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:18 PM
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19. not only was he not a journalist...EVER....he was a pug OPERATIVE
here

http://www.soundbitten.com/archives/week_2005_02_20.html#000605

this is why you're hearing about the sex little bit that you are, to the exclusion of his skullduggery
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:50 PM
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11. Exposing hypocracy is not hypocracy
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:51 PM
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12. Why are they trying to make it like this?
This isn't about Gannon and it shouldn't be, it should be about the Mis-Administration.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:20 PM
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20. Sullivan's wishful thinking: being a gay hypocrite is of no consequence
Of course, Sullivan thinks that the REAL problem is in pointing out that righties hate gays and a gay who sides with the righties is a chump. Not that it isn't true, but that you shouldn't say so, because then it makes Sullivan look less like a sophisticated pundit and more like a whore.
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