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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:33 AM
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Contact the media about Ann Coulter's racist remark about Helen Thomas
From http://moveleft.com


Reporter Helen Thomas (left) and pundit Ann Coulter (right).

In a Feb. 23, 2005 essay at anncoulter.com ,Ann Coulter refers to Helen Thomas, as an "old Arab" who doesn't belong "within yards of the president."

Helen Thomas, who was born in 1920 in Kentucky to parents who were immigrants from Lebanon,
has been reporting on politics since 1943.

Note: The syndicator, Universal Press Syndicate (UExpress), cleaned up that racist remark instead of exposing Ann Coulter's racism here.

"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that dyspeptic, old Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president."


Please contact the media. Choose 5 reporters from the DU list, and email them that you're offended that Ann Coulter called Helen Thomas an "old Arab."

DU Email Addresses List
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x17759

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thecorster Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:36 AM
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1. its funny because helen is actually hotter than ann n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:39 AM
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6. Dessicated dog turds are "hotter" than Coulter.
:shrug: :eyes:
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:49 AM
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10. I agree 100 percent ... if by hot you mean "beauty of the soul" ...
our physically attractive and mature (in a great way!) Helen Tomas is Gorgeous. Even in her golden years, Helen has proven her sharp wit and moral integrity. It's a testament to her good character and unflappable spirit that the worst the * Administration dare do is marginalize her. She is IMHO both Courage and Beauty personified. O8)
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thecorster Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:43 PM
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48. no, I just meant Ann Coulter looks like a freak
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 07:43 PM by thecorster
but that beauty of the soul stuff is nice. :)
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:36 AM
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2. re coulter
Anything Coulter says should be shunned by the press.

Coulter needs to be potty trained.

Sue
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:40 AM
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7. Please choose a few reporters from this list
and let them know you don't like Ann Coulter calling Helen Thomas "that old Arab."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x17759

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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:36 AM
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3. Ann who?

Seriously, why waste time on that has-been.


MDN
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:38 AM
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4. Because if we expose her racism, then Fox News can't have her
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:38 AM by Eric J in MN
on as a regular guest without tainting themselves.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:31 PM
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29. And why not?
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 12:56 PM by Jack Rabbit
FoxNews is just a racist as she and so are a lot of its regular viewers. Ann Coulter and her Arabophobic nonsense fit in very nicely there.

And what's this about FoxNews not tainting itself? Where have you been? FoxNews is a shameless propaganda outlet for the neoconservatives and the Christian right. It can't be more tainted than it is now.

I agree with Mike. The only thing Coulter is good for is to hold her up an one of the most extreme examples of what is wrong with American journalism nowadays. The question isn't: What's wrong with Ann Coulter? but: What's wrong with American journalism that they continue to present this kind of know-nothing ranting as if it had some kind of intellectual legitimacy?

As far as Coulter herself is concerned, there's little to discuss. She uses invective in place of argument and employs an atrocious writing style devoid of any reason. Even when we couldn't disagree with them more, real journalists like Charles Krauthammer at least give their readers something to sink their teeth into and argue about. Krauthammer at least makes his reader think and structures his facts in recognizable logic. I also find Krauthammer to be very clear and straightforward, whereas Coulter usually jumps from point to point without showing how one connects to the other. Krauthammer can be refuted, but it takes a least a little bit of work.

How can anybody refute Coulter? Is it really worth pointing out that Hillary Clinton's mother doesn't wear army boots? Coulter never actually said that she does, but that is the kind of thing writes.

Interestingly, Coulter may be improving in this respect. In the column cited in which she makes disparaging remarks about Ms. Thomas' ethnic heritage, she also states:

Gannon didn't write about gays. No "hypocrisy" is being exposed. Liberals' hateful, frothing-at-the-mouth campaign against Gannon consists solely of their claim that he is gay.

At least that can be demonstrated to be false. Gannon did write about gays. He said "John Kerry may become our first gay president," without stating flatly that Kerry is, in fact, gay, simply assuming his reader would agree with him that this would not be a good thing. Gannon, while hiding his own homosexuality, wrote about homosexuality as something intrisically inferior. That's hypocrisy.

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:12 PM
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43. The only thing Coulter is good for is to hold her up an one of the most ex
"The only thing Coulter is good for is to hold her up an one of the most extreme examples of what is wrong with American journalism nowadays."

damn straight! and we should EXPLOIT her and her wannabees, especially when we are fortunate enough to have a whole network like fox, DAILY.

EXPOSING them should be a DAILY consideration.

peace

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:25 PM
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46. At the same time. it is important to expose what is wrong
It isn't that Ann Coulter's views are to the right of Attila the Hun. We strive to re-establish American democracy. Different views are welcome.

It's not even her anti-intellectualism, although that bothers me a lot more than her right wing views. Frankly, if a progressive columnist were to resort to that kind of name-calling and fact bending to make his point, I'd cringe at that, too.

What is really bad is not Ann Coulter herself. She's probably doing journalism the best way she knows how. That's very sad that think that she thinks this is how it is supposed to be done. No wonder she's defending Gannon. After all, she is guilty of many of the very same sins as he. Both of them make the mistake (as I suspect many at DU do, but from the other end) that what makes one a good journalist is ideological purity.

No, the problem is the MSM. What is really wrong is the way Ms. Coulter is used by the MSM. Just as I don't think she's worth my time listening to her invectives and rantings, I wish the MSM would stop forcing her on the public and present something more thought-provoking. Since the MSM needs more balance, seeing less of Ann Coulter and more of a liberal intellectual (preferably a witty and interesting one) would be a good place to start. Beyond that, it really doesn't have to be a liberal commentator who replaces Coulter and other know-nothings like Hannity and O'Reilly; I'll settle for intelligent discussion.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:02 PM
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51. agreed. "Ms. Coulter is used by the MSM"
and we need to exposes her nonsense and the M$MW culpability. hopefully if we do it often enough (daily) we will impact the bottom line by driving folks away from the M$MW.

that is the ONLY way we will get their attention by affecting their bottom line and to do that we must reveal them in a clear concise and undeniable way which is actually already happening thanks to the INTERNET AND there over the top bias since 911.

if our M$MW were actually concerned about being objective i would agree that we don't need a liberal to replace any of these whores but in todays ideological driven market place we need liberals, albeit intelligent and witty ones, and we need PLENTY of'em, too.

good to see ya JR :hi:

peace

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:09 PM
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42. because EXPOSING their agenda is what is all about
she is the GREATEST opportunity to paint the reTHUGs for what they are hate-filled, racist hypocrites.

time to pounce.

peace
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:39 AM
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5. She's right.Only waspy male prostitutes belong next to the Fearless Leader
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:44 AM by robbedvoter
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:42 AM
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8. Coulter is such a shameless right wing radical whose filled with hate ...
May God have "mercy on her soul" when she's called upon to answer for her transgressions by the TRUE and ultimate "Higher Power." :cry:

Until then, I watch in horror at her verbal callousness and cruelty. I'm very Pro-Women, especially since I'm blessed with a beautiful Daughter, but I don't care if the following sounds sexist because it's heartfelt: Ann Coulter seems too vicious and hate filled to be believed as a woman. Every time she talks, I tell myself, "That can't be someone from the feminine gender." :shrug:
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Zgrrl Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #8
32. Well, she's not really from the feminine gender...
I remain convinced that she's really a man. It's all about the adam's apple...

Zgrrl

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:43 AM
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9. Ann Coulter is a horrible person.
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:46 AM by tasteblind
And everyone except the far right-wing knows it.

I wouldn't pay her any mind. The sooner we stop talking about her, the sooner she will fade into obscurity.

Edit to note: What's wrong with being an old arab? Don't play her stupid game.

She wants controversy, and you seem to want to give it to her.

Try ignoring her. She is unworthy of our valuable time.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:51 AM
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12. I ignore Coulter most of the time, but I think that the way
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:52 AM by Eric J in MN
Coulter wrote about Helen Thomas might make some people realize how rotten she is.

Helen Thomas has been a reporter since the 1940s.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #12
16. I would never interfere with my enemy when she is in the process
of destroying herself.

Let her attempt to demonize people by referring to their age and ethnicity as a negative.

She's like school on Sunday, and everybody knows it.

No class.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:51 AM
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11. Thanks for the media thread which I've bookmarked.
Although I already came to Helen's defense, I will gladly spend a few minutes to vent on that hateful witch, Coulter.

Coulter deserves to have her ass chewed out. She's a vicious jackal! :mad:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. You're welcome. And thanks for informing the media about
Ann Coulter's racist remark about Helen Thomas.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. I love Helen Thomas. She is a very decent and concerned woman.
She has already been marginalized by the administration.

When I discovered Coulter's ghastly remarks, I had to do something! I mean, what a bitch!!! :grr:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:52 AM
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13. I hope she never has a family member at St. Jude's then
because it was started through the efforts of an "old Arab" who went by the name of Danny Thomas....I remember his shows, and how proud he was of his Lebanese heritage.....

Think on this, though. If AC doesn't like people from this part of the world, wouldn't that mean that she'd object to Jesus being anywhere near Bush?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
21. If Jesus returned, Ann Coulter would call him
a bearded Middle Eastern commie.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:53 AM
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15. I will contact the media. Thanks for posting this. I want to make sure
Coulter pays for this in terms of shame and I want her to have to publicly apologize. Maybe then she'll think twice before making racist comments.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:56 AM
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17. As far as I'm concerned Coulter does an excellent job of disgusting
even Republicans all by herself! I would be happy to contact the station, but lets face it, Coulter isn't getting any smarter or any more coherent with time and exposure. She will be her own downfall.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Helen Thomas has been a reporter since 1943,
and so I think contacting reporters about a racist remark towards on of their own will help them to better understand the rotten-ness of Ann Coutler.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:27 PM
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27. Yes, I know who Helen Thomas is. She is probably the most admired
WH reporter of all time IMO. I'm sure there are a great deal of pissed off reporters right now over that remark and I have every intention of making sure they all know about Coulter. However, I'm pretty sure THAT particular comment did NOT go unnoticed by EVERY reporter within earshot and I'm sure they are all chomping at the bit right now, calling each other on the phone, and condemning Coulter for her remark. All EXCEPT FAUX news and all those OTHER ignorant, racist, delusional, reporters out there on a mission to rule the world, that is. Helen is a Goddess among real reporters though and I have no doubt, that remark will not go unpunished by REAL reporters.

Coulter just outed herself as a HUGE target! Reminds me a bit of Gannon's "question's" at a WH press briefing. She is screwed!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. The Ann Coulter racist remark is posted at her website, but
was edited out by the Universal Press Syndicate for the version they sent out.

So most reporters don't know that Ann Coulter called Helen Thomas "that old Arab."

We need to tell them.

Please contact a few on this list:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x17759

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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. We need a way to contact Hellene and let her know that there are those
that support her, they have treated this veteran of the press corps quite shabby. I am appalled at the lack of respect for their elders, wasn't that one of the virtues taught?

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. If you want to send Helen Thomas a supportive email,
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 12:07 PM by Eric J in MN
here is an email address for her:

helent@hearstdc.com

I got it from here:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/186677_thomas18.html


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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:03 PM
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22. Not only does Ann
show her not very well hidden racial/ethnic beliefs, she also demonstrates an amazing lack of disipline in her fact gathering. I grew up with a couple of kids from Lebanese families. They do not consider themselves Arabs. No way, no how. Anyone claiming to be a reporter/journalist/writer, and wanting credibility, would do research about that part of the world so as not to appear grossly ignorant and lazy as Ann does with her latest vitriolic diatribe.........
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Did their families speak Arabic? nt
nt
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. Yes, Lebanese speak Arabic.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Why
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 12:31 PM by Eric J in MN
didn't they consider themselves Arab-Americans?
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #24
31. The families I knew
did not speak Arabic, but I was only a school friend. Maybe within the family they did, I don't know. I recall though the reason for not considering themselves Arabs goes back to ancient times and being descended from the Phonecians etc etc...........
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:09 PM
Original message
Ann Coulter is dumber than dirt. Skinny and ugly too. Helen rocks.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:09 PM
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25. Coulter can't appear on an unbiased show or forum, she gets her ass
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 12:11 PM by against all enemies
kicked regularly.
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Mich Otter Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:42 PM
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33. Ignorant, Fascist, Bitch
My wife just said that Helen Thomas should do an expose on Ann Coulter to reveal what an ignorant, Fascist bitch Ann Coulter is.
I told my wife that it is not fair to the ignorant, Fascist bitches of the world to be compared to a low-life shit-for-brains like Ann Coulter.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:42 PM
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34. I absolutely adore Helen Thomas and this was one of the rudest,
nastiest and tasteless remarks I've ever heard out of anyone. Coulter somehow managed to sink lower on the decency scale than all the other right wing, nut job pundits combined. It's all I can do to keep from calling the miserable #%^&@ an old *&#+!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. Please let the media know how disgusted you are with Coulter.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #34
53. But that wouldn't be quite fair to
#%^&@ s nor *&#+! s.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:57 PM
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36. I sent an email to many reporters
Here is the email I sent:

In this "article" written by Ann Coulter at the link above, she makes
a racist comment calling Helen Thomas "that old Arab". Here is the
full remark:

"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows
that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president."

I need you to make sure Ann Coulter regrets this statement. Confront
her about it, report it, make her apologize.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. good letter
Clear and to the point.

Thanks.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #36
52. Here's the one I sent
tongue firmly planted in cheek.


As we all know, the main stream media is 'liberal', therefore, I would hope that you would approach the comments made by the vitriolic, hateful Ann Coulter towards Helen Thomas, a bastion of responsible journalism with the same gusto with which Ms. Coulter attacked Ms. Thomas.

Ms. Coulter has made a career out of irresponsible, bigoted statements, but she has most assuredly crossed the line with her remarks about Helen Thomas. Ms. Coulter deserves nothing less than the absolute scorn and ridicule of the main stream media and as the MSM is apparently left leaning, I would appreciate your excoriation of her.

Many, many thanks.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:05 PM
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38. WaPo editorial cartoon pretty much settled it
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Thanks, I added it to my blog.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 02:22 PM
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39. that's nice
why don't you say what you mean, Ann? That you hate anyone who is not a white male right-wing conservative nut-job. How about that you are a disgrace to women, white people, Americans, and humans all over the world and if anyone deserves to be lynched, its you.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:00 PM
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41. Patience.
Her words will come back at her.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. DAILY ACTION
and patience, because it ain't gonna happen over night but that just gives us more time to permanently associate her and her racist screeds with the reTHUG party.

peace
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:23 PM
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45. Here's the full quote.
"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president. Still, it would be suspicious if Dowd were denied a press pass while someone from "Talon News" got one, even if he is a better reporter."

We should thank Axis Ann for doing so much to discredit herself, and for doing so much to discredit the evil movement that calls itself conservative.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:37 PM
Response to Original message
47. For anyone who hasn't contacted the media yet,
you can now cite "Editor & Publisher" as your source.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000818305

Her Syndicate Runs Edited Version of Ann Coulter Column

By E&P Staff

Published: February 27, 2005 2:00 PM ET

NEW YORK Ann Coulter, no stanger to controversy, stirred the pot some more this past week, when she took up the subject of the still-simmering story of ex-White House reporter James Guckert, better known as Jeff Gannon, formerly of Talon News.

Writing in her February 23 column for Universal Press Syndicate, Coulter observed, among other things, that Guckert/Gannon was a better reporter than The New York Times' Maureen Dowd and his "only offense is that he may be gay." Nothing unexpected there, but Coulter also wrote: "Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president."

But when the column got posted by by Universal on its Web site, that line was changed to: "Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that dyspeptic, old Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president."
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:44 PM
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49. Nice to see the whore press cleaning up comments from Ann
Thank God for fairness in the press.
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Juan Martinez Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:47 PM
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50. Disgusting.
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 07:47 PM by Juan Martinez
Coulter could not hold a candle to Mrs. Thomas. Not only that, she's factually accurate, and a much better person inside and out.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:04 PM
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54. Tell reporters about this Editor & Publisher article
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:27 PM
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55. I was pleased with the Editor & Publisher article.
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