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Seemann For Congress Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:09 PM
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24 reasons the RW will attack Hollywood today
Well, that's a lot like saying "expect the sun to rise in the east today", but here it comes anyway.

Why today? Well, post-Oscar outrage, of course. However, after the fold there's a long list of reasons the RW will be on the attack today.

1. During the opening sequence, Dustin Hoffman's narration was discussing heroes when a clip of Michael Moore in "Roger And Me" came up on the screen. It was no accident.

2. During the monologue, Chris Rock bashed Bush. He compared the government to working at the Gap and asked 'what would happen if your register at the Gap was 4 trillion in the hole and you started a war with Banana Republic over toxic tank tops, only to find later that they never sold tank tops ever.'

3. African-American man (Morgan Freeman) wins Oscar for his role in Million Dollar Baby. I will not spoil the film, but the main detail of it is NOT boxing and the topic pisses off a lot of the right wing (Limbaugh especially).

4. Hilary Swank wins for Million Dollar Baby. Same film pisses off same people, and this time the Oscar goes to a left-wing activist who portrayed Brandon Teena once and whose husband founded a 527 designed to help turn Ohio blue again.

5. Clint Eastwood wins for Million Dollar Baby. See #3 and #4, but this one will be extra bitter for the right because Eastwood is a former Republican mayor. How dare he go out of lockstep?

6. Best Actor nominee include TWO African-Americans (Don Cheadle and Jamie Foxx), a former-RWer-turncoat (Eastwood), a left-wing activist who supported Kerry (Leonardo DiCaprio) and a guy who LIVES IN FRANCE.....BY CHOICE! (Johnny Depp)

7. African-American man (Jamie Foxx) wins Oscar for "Ray". Foxx will probably be attacked for his old comic routines (often with profanity inserted) and for the tattoo on the back of his skull. Someone will question gang activity because of it. Also, the most insane right-wingers who try to boycott everything Hollywood still hate Ray Charles for NOT playing "America" at a Bush ceremony.

8. Openly gay couple win Oscar for Documentary Short - Mighty Times: The Children's March. Onstage, one of them jokes about working and living with the same person and advises against it. Carson from Queer Eye somewhere was having a hissy fit over how the one gentleman's suit was bunching up as he put his hands on his hips.

9. Alan Alda was nominated for something. That'll tick 'em off enough.

10. Barbara Streisand was one of the presenters for Best Picture. Can you feel the love?

11. Streisand handed that Oscar to Eastwood for....you guessed it, Million Dollar Baby. Did I mention I won't say WHY the film pisses off right-wingers? It just does.

12. On several instances, all the nominees were onstage when the winner was announced. It brought back memories of when Michael Moore invited eveyone up to accept for "Bowling For Columbine", and then talked about fictitious wars and fictitious election results.

13. Sean Penn was allowed onstage when he presented.

14. For the first time ever, a song sung in Spanish was nominated for best song. Damn minorities taking American songwriting jobs away.

15. It won.

16. A song for Best Song was sung in French. In FRENCH!

17. Beyonce' was onstage three times to sing three different Best Original Song nominees. Not that the RW hated Beyonce' before, but she sang the French song, which means she must be boycotted forever.

18. Robin Willliams laughed openly at Focus On The Family (without naming them). He then went on to name cartoon characters who were clearly MORE gay than Spongebob Squarepants.

18a) Williams was told NOT to do the routine when he went out there, but did it anyway.

19. Marlon Brando, a man who chose to expatriate himself from the US, got a MUCH larger cheer than Ronald Reagan did when the two were shown during the segment on those we have lost since last Oscar Night.

20. Christopher Reeve, a man who pleaded for stem-cell research, got a MUCH larger cheer than Ronald Reagan did when the two were shown during the segment on those we have lost since last Oscar Night.

20a) Reeve might still be alive today if not for a lot of Reagan supporters.

20. Vera Drake garnered three nominations. It's a film about an abortion provider pre-Roe v. Wade. As soon as a right-winger sees the film or hears about it or reads about it, they'll find out and get mad.

21. No Oscars for the thrice-nominated Passion Of The Christ.

22. Rock claimed he had seen Passion, but didn't find it very funny.

23. During a pre-recorded segment, Chris Rock interviewed a small number of filmgoers. None were white, expect for Albert Brooks (clearly planted there) who then had the audacity to proclaim "White Chicks" as the best film of the year.

24. A film about Che Guavara, "The Motorcycle Diaries" was nominated twice, for Best Song and Best Adapted Screenplay. Damn Commie bastards.

Well, that's all I can think of right now....anybody got any others???
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:13 PM
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1. 25. Song from Che movie WINS.
In Spanish.

Awesome performance by Carlos Santana (in a Che t-shirt) and Antonio Banderas, as well.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:14 PM
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2. Wow...that's fairly comprehensive
(Jeff, is that you?)
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Seemann For Congress Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:16 PM
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3. Jeff?
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 12:16 PM by Seemann For Congress
We categorically deny the existence of Jeff. These are not the droids you are looking for.

:hi:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:17 PM
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5. Got it
My fault...must have been a dream

:hi:
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:18 PM
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6. Very informative post!!! Thanks.


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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:17 PM
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4. About #2. The CNN babe host following the morning show
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 12:17 PM by Feeney2
showed that clip and then opined, "I guess, some people found that funny". WTGDF
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:18 PM
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7. American Family Radio was whining
this morning about no awards for Passion of the Christ. I sincrely believe reagan supporters are glad Reeve died. They just can't figure out what lives they want to maintain.
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Seemann For Congress Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:21 PM
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8. Never mind
Never mind the fact that by wanting Passion to win an Oscar, they are in fact showing worship of a graven image.

A gold one, no less.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:42 PM
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10. I don't think the graven image thing is a problem for many of them
Not to offend catholics, but their churches, as beautiful as they can be, have many graven images. Praying at the stations of the cross could be considered worshipping graven images, if the "mainstream" fundies ever turn back on the catholics.
Currently, there are two fundie attitudes about catholicism:

1. The BJU/Jack Chick/lunatic fringe idea that the catholic church is the Whore of Babylon in Revelation, and will serve the anti-christ by leading the faithful to hell.

2. The Pat Robertson/Christian Coalition/mainstream fundy thinking that catholics as voters can help them push through bans on abortion, homosexuality, condom distribution to prevent HIV, secular humanism, stem cell research, feminism and probably gangsta rap, while they are at it. This coalition has been somewhat successful, at least they have got this president selected, who has pushed their agenda. They also worked together to pass the state bans on gay marriage in the last election.

This will fall apart eventually-the fundies will want to bring back prohibition, which would just ruin St. Paddy's day and Notre Dame tailgate parties forever.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:12 PM
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20. I figured that out when I was 10 years old
I didn't understand why all of those golden idol worshippers from Biblical times were bad, yet here we were in church with a 2 story tall crucifix that we all bowed down to for prayer. Questioning that got me kicked out of Sunday school, which to this day I refer to as liberation day.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:44 PM
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11. "The Passion" didn't win an Oscar cause IT SUCKED!
As a movie about how to beat a person 3/4 to death it was fine but as a narrative it was tedious and boring. I saw it for the first time the other day and, well, it was a waste of money. Sorry Mel, but your religious point of view doesn't make you a good filmmaker. The fundies wanted it to get nominated just cause it was about their favorite sacred cow. "The life of Brian" was a better movie with a clearer message.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:20 PM
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23. You are right about Life of Brian
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 03:26 PM by Greylyn58
I loved Life of Brian and it caused a huge commotion in its day as did The Passion of the Christ, but for different reasons.

Yet everyone of those yutzs who complained about it never saw the movie. I remember this one church where I live had daily prayer circles outside the theater that showed it. They and other religious groups were successful getting it dropped from one place, but another theater showed it instead and never bowed to the pressure.

Personally I thought Brian was brilliant.
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ohkay Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:38 PM
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9. But, F 9/11 wasn't nominated,
so that should shut some of them up...
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:20 PM
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18. Michael Moore
F9/11 was removed from the Oscar nominations by Michael Moore himself.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:18 PM
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37. not exactly
Oscar rules at the time, since changed, forbid the airing of a documentary upon television within a certain period of time.

Moore wanted it to be seen pre-election on TV so he did so which disqualified it from consideration for the documentary category.

It was still eligible for all other categories, including best picture, but was no nominated.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:44 PM
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12. Hey, I was just wondering where you've been
:hi:

RL
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:44 PM
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13. Wow, thanks for compiling this.
I found myself saying, "That's gonna piss of the Fundies, alright" several times last night. Especially when Million Dollar Baby won and when Beyonce sang in French. It was quite interesting.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:48 PM
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14. Re: #2 - He also referred to 'blood all over the khakis'
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 12:49 PM by meganmonkey
in the Gap analogy, and mentioned the 1,000 or more dead Gap employees.

I couldn't believe he said it. It was dark and twisted and bold and somehow he made it funny. Good for him.

on edit: btw - this is a great compilation! Hooray for 'Hollywierd'!!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:51 PM
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15. About Jamie Foxx, since you've mentioned gangs
Go get a movie (made-for-TV I think) starred by him, called "Redemption."

If THAT isn't a movie to explode RW heads, NOTHING is!
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:57 PM
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16. Our angst is now in the mainstream
I caught a little of SNL this weekend. And most of the Oscars. And both shows are mainstream TV. Not edgy or counter-culture. But middle-of-the road. And both got their Bush bashing in. It's now been deemed OK to go after Bush. Finally. He can't hide behind 9-11 and "shock and awe" any longer. He's been an abysmal failure as a leader and it's time even the cowed are starting to dissent. Only the older crowd, soaked in hate-radio, will hang in there. With their fundie friends (who have no where else to go). But, Bush is losing the middle. No jobs. Huge deficit. No healthcare. Poisonous environment. And those unsettling stories leaking through about how the Bushies like to manipulate the media. Finally. Drip. Drip. Drip.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:00 PM
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17. Whora Ingraham was railing about point #2 this morning
even had some father of a fallen U.S. soldier saying "these people don't care."

Damn...the kool-aid is strong in these morans.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:15 PM
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32. I hate Laura Ingraham almost as much as Ann Coulter. Yuck.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:47 PM
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19. Nice list
Here are a few more

27: No one thanked God last night.

28: "Mar Adentro" A "Right-To-Die" film won for best Foreign Language pic.

29: The two gay men living together made a movie about young black children fighting Segregation in the 60's.
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Kay Autic Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:29 PM
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21. #30
.....and finally number 30 on the list:

"3" wasn't even NOMINATED!

RW News Source"We feel like '3' should have been nominated in all major categories including "Best Race Car Design" and this is obviously a snub by liberal Hollywood and the further erosion of NASCAR..um moral values. The fact that "3" was a TV-movie shown on ESPN should have been in no way a disqualification."


FWIW: I think Morgan Freeman did thank God in a very subtle gesture.

Happy day everyone
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:34 PM
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26. Freeman was acknowledging the people in the upper balconies.
He was thanking everyone in the Academy and looking up to the upper balconies.

Though, I could see his gesture being interpreted as looking up toward heaven. I personally think he was looking at the third balcony of the Kodak Theater, which is quite high up.
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icehenge Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:01 PM
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22. Well why don't we do our own letter writting then too
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:29 PM
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24. That's an excellent list! Good job! And here's one more:
Hollywood people had the nerve to keep breathing. How dare those liberal, left wing, homo-loving Hollywood elite keep doing that?
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Pig_Latin_Lover Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:30 PM
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25. #5 is the best
How can they complain when Clint, one of the most prominent conservatives in Hollywood, won?

I do think that The Passion should have won Best Score, at least, and maybe even Best Makeup. Best Picture? Well, movies get screwed all the time in Oscars.
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itcfish1 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:34 PM
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27. Best Foreign Film
"Deep End of the Sea" with Javier Badem theme is the same subject as "Million Dollar Baby" and the best song, I believe was song in Spanish not French. Repukes hate either one.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:03 PM
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30. One was sung in Spanish, one was sung in French by Beoynce
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 04:05 PM by hector459
The Spanish song won.
#31 Beoynce can sing in French.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:28 PM
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35. #31, edit: sing in french, poorly.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:39 PM
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28. why bother? not one award was really "edgy"
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 03:42 PM by maxsolomon
vera drake should have taken best actress & director. mike leigh is an infallable genius. clint won because he's clint. swank was the safe choice. bening is too old, staunton is too old & played an ABORTIONIST, no one gets an award for performing in a foreign language, and winslet is fat (i consider her hot as a pepper, but i like curves not twigs).

the only award i agreed with was "eternal sunshine..." taking screenplay, and charlie kaufmann DIDN'T SHOW UP! yeah, suck it, academy! (personally, i think he should have pulled a brando & sent ward churchill to collect his award.)
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:23 PM
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38. Ryan was a little edgy, but little known
I was very pleasantly surprised that Ryan won best short animation..
Especially because part of it bashes the Academy for always giving the animation awards to Disney films.

The film is a masterpiece that combines documentary with animation to tell the story of Ryan Larkin who was an Oscar nominated animator in Canada int he late 60s and early 70s. Sadly, Cocaine and alcohol destroyed his talent and his life and he now lives on the streets more or less of Montreal.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:49 PM
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29. Good job! I was seeing it the same exact way as I was watching last night.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:07 PM
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31. Great list
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:34 PM
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33. because they have no soul, humor and stars of their own.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:04 PM
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34. Wingers opinions on Hollywood were formed long before the show anyway.
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 05:05 PM by Nailzberg
I got into a good argument with a s-load of Christian kids that came to my town just to wave "Save Terry" (sic) and various Hollywood liberals suck type signs.

Some kid told me that allowing Terri Schiavo to die was against God's will. I told him that since God was attempting to take Terri Schiavo to Heaven, that keeping her body alive with man-made machines was in effect "playing God" and in direct conflict of Her will. His head almost exploded dealing with that philosophical bomb. It really blows a hole in the side of their boat when you out argue them on religion.

And just to really piss him off, as I left the scene, I pointed at his sign and let him know Terri Schiavo spelled her name with an I, not a Y.

on edit: And he really seemed flustered when I called God "Her". That's the cherry on top.
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:02 PM
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36. What about Hollywood and military propaganda?
for a very long time....

If you read David Robb's (three-time Pulitzer Prize nominee) horrifying book _Operation Hollywood: How the Pentagon Shapes and Censors the Movies_, you'll never watch another action movie the same way again.

Only if a director spends his OWN money (not a common occurrence), like Oliver Stone or Francis Ford Coppola, can they retain their vision without government intervention.

Every year, Hollywood producers ask the Pentagon for help in making films, seeking everything from locations and technical advice to Blackhawk helicopters and nuclear-powered submarines. The military will happily oblige, it says in an army handbook, so long as the movie "aid(s) in the recruiting and retention of personnel." The producers want to make money; the Defense Department wants to make propaganda.
....
This is the most important book ever written about Hollywood. It uncovers a secret collaboration between Hollywood and the military that has been going on for more than fifty years. Based on thousands of pages of Pentagon documents and interviews with filmmakers and military officials, OPERATION HOLLYWOOD reveals that many of your favorite movies and television shows have been shaped, sanitized, and censored by the Pentagon. David L. Robb takes you behind the scenes - and behind the closed doors of the Pentagon - as military officials and movie producers wheel and deal with the First Amendment. Robb reveals a world where filmmakers bow to pressure from admirals and generals, where movies are turned into propaganda, and where free speech is thrown out the window.
....
We may think that movies are free from government interference, but OPERATION HOLLYWOOD shows how the world's most powerful military has been placing propaganda into the world's most powerful medium for decades. This is investigative journalism at its best.
....
At its worst, the author argues, the Pentagon unscrupulously targets children; Robb reveals how the Defense Department helped insert military story lines into the Mickey Mouse Club.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1591021820/qid%3D1109631342/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-4974867-9047842?v=glance

Dadiv L Robb, Operation Hollywood: How the Pentagon Shapes and Censors the Movies, PrometheusBooks.com, NY, 2004, ISBN 1591021820
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:57 PM
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39. Regarding #2 - Chris Rock's Gap Analogy
Everyone at the Oscar party I was attending laughed and applauded profusely. An outstanding piece of commentary by Rock.
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