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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:23 PM
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Republicans on MSNBC
I know now why MSNBC has so many Republicans on the channel. It is owned by GE, which was run by Jack Welch for many years.

Liberals should point out that in 2000 Jack Welch was in the NBC control room rooting for George W. Bush to win the election.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:25 PM
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1. The new G.E. CEO is even more of a Bush-fan
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:31 PM
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2. Bush fan
How anyone so highly educated and well informed be a fan of an idiot and a moron? I never understood this behaviour in some of our Corporate elite.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:33 PM
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3. I don't get it either
I guess money and power make a stupid blind eh? :shrug: But not long ago I was watching Scarborough and he had some segment, I can't remember what now, but he had two democrats and one republican (Rachel from "Unfilitered" and some other guy). I was really surprised it wasn't the other way around.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:34 PM
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4. 1 word
GREED
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:41 PM
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10. Ba-da-bing
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:34 PM
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5. Follow the money. (n/t)
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:34 PM
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7. Their "fans" insofar as bush* IS an incompetent idiot and therefore
easily malleable to suit THEIR needs. When the President is the kind of guy that has his own not-100000% CORPORATE agenda, no matter how smart, then they no likey too muchy.
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WahooJunkie Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:34 PM
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8. here's why -
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:34 PM
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6. Try Ratings, Too
Unfortunately, the top rated shows on that network are Tweety's Democrat-trashing spit-fest and Joey the Internist's coven of right wing bile. Olbermann is third on the match ratings-wise and hasn't shown the growth and big money these other ones do. Also, the network's most popular show still is Imus...also attracting a lot of the Faux/wingnut types. You play to the hand you're dealt.

Yes, a case can be made about Donahue being sacked by the network several years ago, and his ratings are still higher than Olbermann's in the same time slot, but there were other factors working against Phil as well (a lot of it internal network politics).

I view ALL networks with a lot of suspicion these days as they all serve a large corporate media empire that is starting to decay from its largess and financial entanglements. These networks no longer need to serve the "public" as their licenses are protected by 7-year near automatic renewals and expensive appeal costs. But they also want more...there's still pending deregulation (more monopoly) to let them grow even more obese and perks to be gained.

What we're living through is the product of 20 years of network building and coordination that has developed strong right wing talk radio and television networks while liberals, progressives and others have not followed suit. There's still precious little being done...and as long as that remains the mindset, the right wing dominance of the corporate media and the ratings that justify them will continue.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:44 PM
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11. I'd be curious to compare the promotional efforts
I don't know about you, but all I see when I have MSNBC are promos for Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough. Can't recall seeing ONE K.O. promo--- it's like you have to stumble upon it as opposed to prepare to watch it.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:11 PM
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13. Chicken -> Egg
Millions are spent each year in reasearching audiences...focus groups, phone outs and all sorts of other games to determine what gets a viewer to watch...and that dictates how a network programs and promotes and who they are promoting to.

I saw the thread the other day about this topic and I think MSGOP has attempted to promote Olbermann...and yes, it's his lighter stuff that they're trying to draw an audience with. He's been on in that time slot for a year and his numbers, while growing, haven't put him in the same numbers as Tweety & Joey...and this is why they pump their grease a bit louder...these promotions appear to attract a larger audience.

It'll be interesting when Bowtie Boy starts his snobfest...and how he'll perform on what has been that network's black hole. CNNServative's plunge in ratings scares these people more than it is creating and incentive since the perception is Faux now has the right wing market cornered and the "libruls" are the only ones left on the other networks...thus they keep skewing further right to dispell this perception...and the games go on....thus why I watch with such cynicism.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:39 PM
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9. read "confessions of an economic hitmen"...that's all you need
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:45 PM
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12. Name names please. Who are the Repubs on MSNBC?
Other than the obvious. Is Tweety? Is Imus? Is Russert? And if you know, I'd also like to know the political affiliations of major CNN "news" castors, commentators, etc. I've tried to look this up on the internet many times, but never satisfactorily.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:33 PM
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14. My take...
Matthews feigns disdain of the Bush admin once in a while but he was definitely behind Bush in 2000 (a reason, I now hate to admit) why I liked him then.

Joe Scarborough (obvious enough)

Deborah Norville (but she's gone now,though, right? Seems I saw her back on entertainment TV...oh wait...there's a diff?)

Imus is just a complete idiot. Amazes me he has even 1 listener.

Russert is a cookie and hasn't lobbed a serious question to anyone on any side of the political spectrum for...forever.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 03:38 PM
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15. The Names
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 03:39 PM by erpowers
Tweety pretends to be a Democrat, but he is a dem basher. I think he likes the idea of getting attention for claiming to be a Democrat and then supporting Bush. I do not know Imus' political affilication, but he does a large amount of bashing minorities and other groups. I do not know Russert's political afflication, but he shills a large amount of the time for the Republican. He has many of them on his show on CNBC and Meet The Press. He likes to have Limbaugh and even apologized when one of Limbaugh's viewers thought he was too harsh on Donald Rumsfeld. CNN has some Republicans on its line up. Many of them are obvious.
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