Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

President's goal is phase-out of Social Security.............Josh Marshall

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:13 AM
Original message
President's goal is phase-out of Social Security.............Josh Marshall
A number of very good articles on SS and a link to an article by Sidney Blumenthal....

In generalities, the point is widely understood. But in this article by Sidney Blumenthal from yesterday, the specifics are assembled together. The point being that nothing President Bush is saying now about Social Security is new. In fact, almost word for word his statements are close to identical to Republican attacks on Social Security from as far back as 1936.

A few examples.

The 1936 Republican platform: "Society has an obligation to promote the security of the people, by affording some measure of protection against involuntary unemployment and dependency in old age. The New Deal policies, while purporting to provide social security, have, in fact, endangered it ...the fund will contain nothing but the government's promise to pay ... unworkable."

Goldwater on Social Security from '64: "It promises more benefits to more people than the incomes collected will provide." It's always been the same. The Trust Fund doesn't exist. The system is on the verge of bankruptcy. It can't deliver what it promises. The program should be voluntary.

All that is different now is that a sitting president has chosen to make a showdown over the issue.

I've said probably too many times over the last couple days that however they choose to dress it up and whatever sort of compromise they want to present it as, the president's goal is still phase-out. That's why he's invested so much in this politically. And if you want to grasp the stakes of all this -- both politically and in terms of policy -- just look at the fact that the White House is now redoubling its efforts to push privatization in the face of public opinion which appears to be congealing against them. They understand the consequences of defeat.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_02_27.php#004992

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:20 AM
Response to Original message
1. Seems the repubs are just Chicken Littles. Thanks for some
great arguments.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:22 AM
Response to Original message
2. There is an opposite of 'Phase out'
'Phase in'.

What one political group can-do another can un-do.

It is just a matter of time.

180
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:22 AM
Response to Original message
3. Bush = All Out Class War On The Middle Class And Poor
Let's call it what it is.

The super wealthy against everyone else.

That is the definition of Class Warfare.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:27 AM
Response to Original message
4. Bush is following the 19th Century Playbook - with the
"Corn Laws" (NAFTA, CAFTA, Tax breaks for Outsourcing), "Poor Laws" (Phase out of Social Security), and Wars for Oil.

A good comparison is in "A Century Of War : Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order" by F. William Engdahl.

Not a comple 1 to 1 analogy - but pretty close.

Scary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:40 AM
Response to Original message
5. Duh
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fromBrooklyn Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:49 AM
Response to Original message
6. Consequences of defeat...
Oh god, please let those be annihilation in a vat of burning oil, please?

Failing that, how about a re-awakening of the media?

This is too much to ask, isn't it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 05:04 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC