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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:55 AM
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"Gas prices might increase 24 cents the NEXT FEW DAYS"!!
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 10:56 AM by Bluebear
Wheeee!! Enjoying your "tax cuts", Bush voters?




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Gasoline prices could rocket 24 cents a gallon the next few days, as stations across the USA scramble to keep up with big jumps in the prices of oil and wholesale gas, a veteran energy-price analyst forecast Thursday.

"It's going to be brutal, horrendous," says Peter Beutel, president of energy-price tracker Cameron Hanover. He has followed energy markets for nearly three decades.

Thursday, light, sweet crude oil for April delivery traded as high as $55.20 a barrel in New York before closing at $53.57.

A 24-cent jump in the price of gas would bump unleaded regular to a nationwide average of about $2.16 a gallon, blowing through last May's record of about $2.06. It could go higher as increased warm-weather driving in another two months pushes up demand, and therefore prices, forecasters say.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20050304/bs_usatoday/gaspricesmightincrease24cents
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:57 AM
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1. YEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAA
THINGS ARE BETTER THAN EVER!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THANK GOD OUR CHIMPEROR HAS A YACHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
:crazy: :silly:
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:59 AM
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2. prices - noticed while driving in the last week
florida was high - around 1.99
south carolina - about 1.65
north carolina back up in the 1.8x
virginia around 1.75

amazing how there is a difference of 30 cents between states
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:01 AM
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7. That's nothing.
In San Diego it's now $2.29 for regular.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:02 AM
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8. That has to do with added taxes and location of distribution.
And of course markup by dealers.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:08 AM
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11. Added taxes?
California's gasoline tax is lower than Texas', by the way.

And we have freaking refineries right here in San Diego. Why should it cost more here, where the gas is produced?
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:57 AM
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24. Don't know where in VA you were but..
.. here in No. VA, it is around 1.89.
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:01 PM
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25. It's 1.75 in Southwest VA (Roanoke, Blacksburg, etc)
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:00 AM
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3. What's important is that prices dropped just before the election.
And rose afterwards.

Bush's ties to the oil industry are just coincidence.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:01 AM
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6. Bandar Bush! nt
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:00 AM
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4. Oh my
That's going to put a crimp on the economy.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:00 AM
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5. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood
A beautiful day in this beauty wood

Will you be mine? Will you be mine?

Will you be my neighbor?
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:02 AM
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9. Hahahah....
I was looking this morning on my my paper route. I was looking because of a thread i saw here yesterday about how it jumped .24 in a single day in Indianna. I reckon it'll get here soon enough, i done warned the wife. BTW, i thought bunnypants was gonna "jawbone" the Saudi's and make them open the spigots? Just another of a million lies i guess ;)
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LVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:02 AM
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10. AAA: Gas Prices Will Rise, But Not 25 Cents In Days
AAA: Gas Prices Will Rise, But Not 25 Cents In Days

POSTED: 7:07 am PST March 4, 2005

AAA says any rumor of a sudden 25-cent increase in gas prices isn't true.

Thursday, an OPEC oil minister announced that oil prices could hit $80 a barrel.

That's if there's a significant reduction in availability over the next few years.

AAA did say drivers can expect gas prices to increase throughout the spring and gradually exceed record retail prices set last May.

http://www.thekcrachannel.com/automotive/4253621/detail.html


:shrug:
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:14 AM
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12. In Indiana, the prices fluctuate constantly--- from $1.75 to $1.99
It's gone back and forth between these amounts for the past six months. It will go up and down like this within a few days. I don't know WTF is going on.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:20 AM
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13. wake up --- we need to demand atlernative energy...this won't stop
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:20 AM
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14. Glad I bought my
Prius
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:20 AM
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15. Don't you just love that "jawbonin'" that W promises in 2000?
Got the part of the origin of the jawbone correct.

Of course, he could have been talking about interacting with a certain "journalist" . . .
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:22 AM
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16. Thank goodness! That should put the breaks on this booming economy!
Then people will HAVE to sign up for the armed services!
Problem of recruitment goals solved!
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:22 AM
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17. Aww too bad.....I'll be laughing my way down the road on
my little red scooter. I hope prices get to $4.00 - $5.00 a gallon by this summer. Maybe then people will start thinking about how much gasoline they consume.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:36 AM
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20. Oooh great!
Hope you can still afford food, electricity, and everything else when they go through the roof as well.

I'm all for alternative energy but those of you who keep reveling in the thought of gasoline going through the roof while having little or no effect on you are delusional.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:48 AM
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21. Good points...but there are solutions....
We grow most of our own food with the help of a local farmer. I'm in a farming co-op that rents land from a local farm. For $250.00 a year from each member and a little labor we grow almost all of our own food and it's organic. The only meat I eat is wild meat that I hunt or catch myself.

For electricity, conservation is the place to start. We spent the past year reducing the electrical load we use. I installed some homemade passive solar heaters this winter that drastically reduced our heating bills. As soon as the ground dries we are installng a geothemal cooling system at a total cost of about $100.00. We also just installed a solar attic fan. Last summer we used AC 28 days. This summer I am shooting for no AC. The biggest electrical draw we have is our refrigerator.

I am truly not worried about rising energy costs b/c I have been organizing my life for over a year to deal with the certainty of that happening.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:53 AM
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22. Pay attention to Gumbo
He is telling us something very basic about how to keep yourself and your family eating.

For more on this -- CSA or Community Supported Agriculture -
try this link, then read the essays and news stories linked on that page

http://www.chiron-communications.com/farms.html
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:51 PM
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32. We have really enjoyed our coop.
Between the produce from our own garden and the coop produce, we are able to put away enough fruits and veggies to get through the winter. It is a giant costs savings and the quality of the food is better than grocery produce. We have also gotten to be buddies with our farmer. He knows I grew up on a farm, so we get a lot of the things like collard greens and purple hull peas in abundance just because he knows I love them.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:05 PM
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26. "not worried" ... "b/c I have been organizing my life"
Spoken like a true republican you know. "I'm ok, screw everybody else."

It's good that you have made adjustments to your life to accomodate this. Hopefully it was done out of a desire to live a life that is beneficial to the environment.

But getting pleasure out of the fact that other people (not JUST shrub voters) will be hurt by this just isn't very nice. Not everyone is in the position to make the changes right now that you suggest. I'm sure that single parent working two minimum wage jobs will be happy to choose between buying food or buying the gas he/she needs in order to get to those jobs.

For the record, I am not one of those people but my ideals as a liberal/progressive/democrat generally tilt towards wanting to help people who are less fortunate than I am. I kind of thought was an important part of the platform.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:35 PM
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29. Yes, that's me...screw the world as long as I got mine.
Of course I'm laughing at people who are so caught up in the cycle of consumption that they can't break free and look at a more simple and environmentally friendly way to live. There are plenty of ways to get around besides a car. Ever hear of a bus or god forbid, walking. Not using electricity is easy; don't use it. Growing food is easy if you jut do it. What we found is that most farmers are dying to find new ways to make money and it is much cheaper to grow your own food than to buy it. Living simply is a choice that people can make that saves them money. So yes, if people are not capable of examing their consumption and chose a simpler life, it amuses me.

Having said that, of course, I have compassion for people on low incomes who will be impacted by higher gas prices, but the answeer for these people is a living wage; not continued feelty to a military-industrial system driven by fossil fuels.
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idiosyncratic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 01:01 PM
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33. You need to widen your perspective.
What about people who live in rural areas and have to travel a long distance just to buy groceries?

I have an economical car (30 mpg +), but I use more than one gallon of gas just to get to and back home from where I buy groceries.

Using a scooter or a bicycle to run errands is not possible for me, or many, many other people who have limited incomes and for which the increase in gas prices is a very severe hardship.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 01:13 PM
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36. I grew up in a rural area myself.
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 01:14 PM by GumboYaYa
We weren't just poor, we were dirt poor. I remember car pooling with neighbors to the discount grocery thirty miles away to save money on the cost of getting to the store. Once there we would shop for the next month so we could avoid the costs of travelling to the store for four more weeks. There are always ways to conserve energy if you look hard enough and are willing to deal with a little inconvenience.

For example, it takes a little more effort to hang dry clothes, but saves a ton of energy. Car pooling means you have to deal with multiple schedules, but three people can fit in the cab of a pick-up truck to go get groceries. Voila, your cost got cut by over sixty percent, plus you got to spend time with your neighbors.

I'm not insensitive to the issues of the rural poor, I just know that there are ways to survive if people will reexamine their lifes and choose conservation over consumption.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:29 AM
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18. Anyone think this might be manipulation and fear-mongering?
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 11:30 AM by NightOwwl
Bush will bring out the old mantra: Only way to keep those prices down is to decrease our dependency on foreign oil, so it's imperative we start drilling in ANWAR.

Nah, Bush couldn't be in cahoots with the oil industry, could he?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:31 AM
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19. ANWR is exactly the story here
People will be ready to blast penguins to kingdom come if gas goes up too high. So the Republicans will get their way in the end re: drilling up the arctic.
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Dirty Hippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:57 AM
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23. I heard on NPR once
every $.05 increase in the price of gas results in a $4000.00 annual increase in the cost of operating a semi truck.

The story was about the demise of the independent trucker.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:28 PM
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27. They use 80,000 gallons of fuel per year?

Seems high to me, but certainly possible.
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AlabamaYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:33 PM
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28. It's already started
Yesterday the price at a discount brand station jumped six cnets betwee 8:00 a.m. and noon here in Alabama
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GreenPoet64 Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:37 PM
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30. I'm moving closer to work in anticipation of the coming
prices. Anyone else have a plan?
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:39 PM
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31. Michigan: Going Home From Work Yesterday: $1.91. This Morning: $2.19.
Same gas station... what a difference 14 hours can make.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 01:04 PM
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34. We're still at1.90 here in SCS.
:shrug:
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 01:06 PM
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35. Fill 'Er Up, Miss Grumpy.
I'm at 1/2 tank, as luck usually has it!

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