How alarmed are you that the price of gas is skyrocketing?

The price is supposed to jump as low as 25 cents in the next couple days.

Instead of trying to help Americans pay their bills and maintain their standard of living, Bush is running around the country trying to drive a stake in the heart of Social Security.

And with the imminent passing of the Bankruptcy Bill, it appears as if we are all truly fucked. Truly fucked, indeed.

I don't know about you guys, but I am on a budget. I try to fill up once a week, and have allotted so much for that.

Either I'm going to have to park my vehicle a lot more or try to get into a carpool or something.

their first job will be to kick your ass.

Streak lifts weights :D

She says she can take your ass.

when pissed.

:hi:

:loveya:

when my IEEE "Spectrum" arrived. She is a very intelligent cat - she thinks she is an electrical engineer. She is also a Ham Radio operator and has her own web page at http://www.universal-radio.com

she wants me to play with her.

Seems she wants to stay in shape just so she can kick your ass.

both which are up substantially in the last few days.

I haven't even checked lately because I gave up on it!

is worth a little over $400. (I bought into the analysts' growth projections.)

I hear you-- I also have a bunch of that worthless pile of nothing.

OH WELL!

Guess the time is ripe to start horse and buggy shops. What we should do is for the whole nation to not buy gas one day. But, you know that would never fly.

Those who can afford it the least, end up paying more as a percentage of their income.

At least my car is a Subaru. It gets decent mileage for a '94 vehicle, and my office is in my home. If I had to drive to work, with the rising cost of gas (here in my part of Oregon it's at about $2.20), it would really be painful.

I'm feeling sorry for my friends who have to drive to work. They aren't exactly living in the lap of luxury as it is. One more nail in the coffin of the American Dream.

and I paid $1.99 a gallon.

Mind you I drive a 1998 Nissan Sentra, so my tank isn't too big, but I'm not used to pre-paying $20.00 and getting no change.

Just looking out my window at the exact same gas station I filled up at yesterday afternoon, the price is now $2.09 for unleaded 97 octane.

FUGWB!!!!!

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the cheapest places in the country. Filled up my old Honda Civic yesterday for 20 bucks (it was pretty much empty), a lady came in while I was paying raising hell with the clerk about "SIXTY SIX DOLLARS FOR A TANK OF GAS!" I looked out & saw she was driving one of those 3 ton SUVs. Almost said something but didn't. :eyes:

(My Honda which I drive most of the time doesn't pollute much, it has the CVCC engine and it gets about 40 MPG)

Look at the numbers and think about scaling down and getting a energy effecient vehicle thats reality!!!

about shipping companies, truckers and the airlines in particular, as my husband works for one. He's already waiting for a 5-7% pay cut within the month. This is not helping.

Damn I miss the Clinton years.

That kind of jump in gas prices is a better than 12 percent increase in the cost of transportation. It's been creeping steadily up already; look for food prices to get higher in a hurry.

The price around here has jumped 7-10 cents in two days. I managed to get some for $1.77 at a locally-owned, non-gouging station today, but I fear that's the last I'll see at that price.

We'll have to start taking out "mortgages" for gas, I suppose.


Now, what about all that talk of free-flowing oil from Iraq lowering prices? Guess the Saudis appreciate that BFEE "help" so much, they're punishing us little Americans. :shrug:

I agree with you about the Bankruptcy Bill. It is really going to hurt seniors the most. It is a criminal proposal for a civilized nation to even consider.

Sorry, but I am stupid. What does that mean?

perhaps I worded that badly.

I am looking into more efficient cars, but they are more expensive than less efficient cars. It would be cool to get one, though.

Chose my house so I could walk everywhere if I had to.

Won't be heading for the exurbs, to buy crap at Walmart, that's for sure.

walking distance of VTA light rail, a quick shuttle to the Montague BART-Light Rail Multi Mode (when it gets built). Everything - absolutely everything - is within 1.7 miles, and my "mail drop" office is just a couple of hundred meters away.

Plus, in the SF Bay Area - I never use the a/c more then 10 days/year, never have the heat on more then 30 days/year.

...nearly laid an egg! Noticed it had been hiked $.28 since last week, and I just put in enough to get me to work and back, and to do my weekend errands/partying.

Probably a poor bet, hoping it goes down a little, but gas is always cheaper near work anyway (have no clue why, but out there it's always 5-10 cents less. I'll just fill up there.

This is nothing compared to what will come in the next few years.

I've been reading and researching and posting about energy & environment issues for going on four years now here at DU, and this is pretty much what I thought it would look like. Fortunately, I've just finished payments on a hybrid car, and my wife can walk or bike to work if need be, so we're in decent shape.

But this isn't an "I've got mine" kind of post. There's an absolute buttload of people out there who are just hanging on by their fingernails, doubling up on jobs, trying desperately to get by on $8.50 an hour and hoping that their '86 Taurus or '91 Sentra can keep on going for a few months longer, and who really, REALLY don't need $3.00 or $3.50 gasoline.

I don't know how quickly change is going to come - now or three or five years from now - but it will come, and much of the change is not going to be particularly pleasant. I strongly believe that gas prices are not going to decline substantially from where they are now. I'd be willing to bet that we'll probably never see $40 oil again, and I'd bet big that we'll definitely never see $30 oil in our lifetimes.

The EU and Japan are kind of ready for a situation like this, but we've been fat, dumb and happy ever since Morning In America blinded us to geophysical and geographical reality. It's going to be ugly for a whole lot of people.

"GM and Ford, which started the year with swollen inventories of unsold cars and trucks, were both hurt in February by double-digit declines for many of their mid- and full-sized sport utility vehicles."

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/050301/autos_sales_4.html

I'm glad I have a Honda Accord.

taught.

I am secretly chuckling that the *I have arrived and I live way out in the sticks in a new McMansion* people are going to have to pony up to drive to work in their SUVs

You would have to know my state and the dipshits that kept *moving out farther* (translation racist A-holes that were moving to get away from the people of color that supposedly tainted their landscape) to appreciate my glee.

Aside from that I concur with you we are phucked!

Hmmm...? I guess that's to be expected. At least they are pointing it out and not just generically raising the rate.

...$100 a barrel, this year, because it's coming.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3218818#3220753

1. The Oil Embargo of 1973;

2. The ousting of the Shah in 1979;

3. The growth in popularity of SUV's in the late 1980's;

4. When GM filed a frivolous patent law suit against Toyota in 1992 to keep EV's and HEV's off of the road;

5. When the civilian Hummer came out in 1997;

6. Throughout the 1980's and 1990's - when the "Big Three" and "Big Oil" fought off increasing CAFE standards;

7. In 1999 when GM discontinued the EV1 - and admitted that they introduced it just to placate the California Air Resources Board;

8. When Cheney's Panel recommended drilling in ANWR - instead of some good engineering and raising CAFE.

9. When I read:

a. "Out of Gas: The End of the Age of Oil" by David Goodstein

b. "House of Bush, House of Saud : The Secret Relationship Between the World's Two Most Powerful Dynasties" by Craig Unger

c. "A Century Of War : Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order" by F. William Engdahl

10. When I attended seminars given by

a. Stan Ovshinsky

b. Amory Lovins

11. When I read that Kuwait's oil minister preict crude at $80/bbl.

Surprised? No.

Alarmed? Not really. I sold my SUV ages ago and went to a compact economy car (Corolla) and a Prius.

Angry? Yes. This was predicted - and predicted - and predicted. And our political and business leadership laughed and said "don't worry - those guys like Lovins and Goodstein and Ovshinsky are just a bunch of Chicken Littles."

simply for the gas mileage. I need the truck for work purposes and family purposes/three kids, two who play muscial instrumwents and perform locally, but the V8 is killing me and I also am already budgeting my gas allowance. Forty a week. I put over three hundred miles a week on my truck.

I think the nameless one is certifiable. absolutely. he hates america, I really believe this.

I just got back from a trip to England where the price is about $1.56 per litre which by my reckoning works out at about $5.90 per US gallon. I'll tell you, there are hardly any SUVs and big truurrkks there and most new cars sold there get in the range of 40 to 60 MPG.

and you don't see gas guzzlers over there.

I'm aware of the extremely high gas prices they have, but remember, their public transportation is second to none.

transport like most of the civilized world has done. Hell, the first time I went to Japan, I rode their 'bullet' (Shinkansen) from Tokyo to Osake at 170 miles an hour. WAY faster than sked airline counting time to & from airports.

and good care at that. Read "The Eurpoean Dream"

I would happily make the trade since I have no health care, and even if I did, since I'm self employed, my family premium would be upwards of $800 a month for a family of four.

are we paying these high prices to cover the bil's that are rolling in for jr. round the world trips , war gas to iraq , high pay for the workers over there working to get the stolen oil out of iraq , merc's , long list , bend over , we are all going to be sore from thios idiot in d.c and the gang who supports him

we should be quite a bit alarmed. This has a huge impact on the economy.

Gas in the USA is ridiculously cheap and always has been. We should have done like the Europeans and the Japanese did years ago. That is but a large tax on gas. The cheapness of gas has allowed Detroit to build monster cars and trucks with low MPG. The cheapness of gas has allowed the proliferation of mega sprawl cities and the destruction of farmland. The cheapness of gas has in part been responsible for much of the global climate change that may lead to the worst ecological disaster in earth's history. Now that oil is finally nearing the point of decline in extraction world wide we in the USA will simply pay more, lots more, or change our lives. Changing ones life is not that simple. On the other hand Europe and Japan can simple lower their fuel tax and no one suffers. One more thing keep in mind that much of the rise in oil priced in dollars is due to the lower value of the dollar compared to the Euro and other currencies. And that of course is caused mostly be our deficit spending year after year and the trade imbalance. Bob

I own a semi and drive it for a living. I'm making less money every time the price of diesel goes up. I'm only a local driver so it hasn't killed me yet, but I know many truckers that run the road that are having to run illegal logs and double up on their runs to be able to make it. Also some that are loosing their trucks.
They give you a fuel surcharge, but it never makes up the difference and at the same time the freight rates are cut.
Last week diesel was $1.91, this week it's 2.09, and I just heard it's going to go up over the weekend.
There is going to be a lot of repossessions coming up.

Another problem is my electric bill. Even though I'm using 300 to 400 KWH less per month this year than last, the bill is a lot higher. Just heard on Public radio today that the power companies are negotiating to raise the price by 26%.
I'm in GA.

I'm in Georgia, too

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surprised last summer AFTER we put on a brand new roof in the spring (and the roofer telling us how much we'll save) that my bill was $300/month in the summer. This is about $90 more/mth than the previous year. I do live in TX, and it's hotter than hell here, but still... So I have another upswing to look forward to.:cry:

People have been lulled to indifference because of the Iraqi election, Social Security, and all the rest of the shit that is hitting them in the head. They can't take it...most don't even recognize it. It boggles mt mind that thousands are not picketing the WH daily.

I'm in Rockville, it hasn't shifted more than 10 cents up or down from $1.95 in the past few months.