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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 07:43 PM
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How much more can we take?
I keep asking myself that question. How much more crap can the average american take before they just explode? I know my head is about to explode. I can't stand the outrage, the injustice that is going on in our government today: The passage of a bankruptcy bill that will doom thousands of decent hardworking citizens to lives of penury.

The outrageous war crimes committed by this administration in Iraq.

THe refusal to consider a minimum wage increase for the poorest.

The refusal to rescind tax cuts to the wealthiest.

Cuts to veterans hospitals and medical services.

The refusal to make even a half-hearted effort to reform our crapass, out of control health system that lets 45 million+ go without health insurance.

I am worn out just with the thinking about it. When will it end?

Is this nation going to collapse before people wake up?

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EightMenO Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 07:45 PM
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1. It looks like they can and want to take
4 more years!!! YUCK
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 07:47 PM
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2. I am truly exhausted by it all
My husband told me yesterday to stop listening and reading about it but I can't. I wake up with it and go to bed with it.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 07:48 PM
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3. hopefully it will end soon
the fact that people are mad about SS is a good sign. And NPR today talked about the staged "town hall meetings" Bush is holding-and that people are not buying his bull because they know the whole thing is staged. I know that my boss is getting worried about the economy (houses aren't selling in our area, and so we don't have a lot of termite business right now). My neighbors are making sure they have enough supplies, sort of like stocking up for winter, because they think the fertilizer will hit the ventillator soon.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 07:56 PM
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8. Hey, but the stock market was way up today because of job report! Woot!
Prosperity here we come!
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 07:49 PM
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4. As long as we've got reality TV, who cares?
As Rev. Jim said on "Taxi" long ago, "You know the great thing about TV? If something important happens anywhere at all in the world, no matter what time of the day or night, you can always change the channel."

:eyes:
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Lisabtrucking Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 07:50 PM
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5. You know, I know it sounds really bad, but I really believe this will
hurt the republicans more then it will hurt us. Most of them have what they do because they abused the system. Now they will share this bill just like the rest of us.

When we get the government back we will fix it.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:00 PM
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9. That Sounds Comforting But
How long will it take to put the country back together?? Our country is being systematically destroyed. How long will it take to turn this all around? Plus the fact that we will be bankrupt. Many long and painful years, I suspect. We will still have the fundies opposing everything.
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Lisabtrucking Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:08 PM
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10. That's the trillion dollar question, I'm hoping it's soon. n/t
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 07:55 PM
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6. When the Pugs start to feel the pain, they will whistle a different tune
but they will still blame the democrats.
Pugs always hit the wrong target.
If they knew what they were doing, they
would be Democrats.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 07:55 PM
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7. Doesn't it make you just want to shake
them and say wake the fuck up you idiots you are killing the many to save the few.They need to all get out of their circle jerk friends groups get out where real people live and see what's going on.Instead they sit together dreaming up crap that is going to make there jerkoff group bigger and more powerful and screw everyone else.The part that really pisses me off is the public buying their horseshit message.Stupid is as stupid does.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:19 PM
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11. This is the Repugs psyops on the American people. n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:19 PM
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12. Is this in their plan to take us down?
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 08:50 PM by higher class
They have taken over a modern country and its people who are considered to come from the area of the world known as The Cradle of Civilization.

Have you ever wondered how their think tankers thought out the takeover of we citizens. Here's one thought on it.

They probably divided 'we citizens' into groups - with one of them titled "Those who will cave in to the hate". By that I mean they probably thought that if they genereated enough hate that a certain segment of the citizens would feel so sick that they would shut down by completely avoiding news, thus making them less resistant and more hopeless.

It doesn't have to work for them if we citizens wake up in time and want and get others to wake up.

If not, I hope other countries are considering what their refugee policy is going to be.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:23 PM
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13. Exactly how I have been feeling--driving with tears running
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 08:24 PM by coffeenap
down my face. Both of my parents died in the last year and a half and I promised them I would help save the country they loved. At 83 they both saw the disaster coming. Shit.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 07:06 AM
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16. My sympathies to you on the loss of your parents
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 08:44 PM
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14. Again, I find cliches are the best remedy
What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. And bitter and then you fight. Ireland didn't gain independence until after the famine. Europe didn't figure out how to live in harmony until a few hundred years of war.

Here's the other one I think. WHY do we think, as Americans, in the long sight of history we should be immune to suffering?

I find it best to find something else to focus on, whatever your bag is. Bush might ruin America but you only have one life to live.

This too shall pass. And I have looked at history-no matter how horrible it is-IT ENDS. That gets me through.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 07:09 AM
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17. everyone who has responded has given a good answer
and I think I pretty much agree.

It's just that I want to see some action and see it soon, I guess.

Then too, I hate the thoughts of people suffering. I can only hope this country comes out of all this as a better place to live.

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wuwei Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:07 PM
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15. good question ...
Between global warming, the impending crisis of the oil bell curve and other factors I often wonder if the rich/elite know that society is close to collapse and are trying to stem it off for a few more years of oppulence before it hits? /shrug

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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 07:17 AM
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18. Good question
Even Nixon increased the minimum wage further from Johnson's level, if memory serves me correct. This adm. is really radical, in the guise of being conservative. Which reminds me of the following words of George Orwell's:

"Both left and right concurred in the very shallow notion that National Socialism was
merely a version of Conservatism. Then suddenly it turned out that Hitler was not respectable after all".

I can't imagine, say, the French or the Spanish putting up with this kind of crap. They'd be burning tyres in the streets and dumping horse manure in front of the Parliament long ago.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 08:49 AM
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19. Unfortunately, the average American isn't going to wake up
until they have hit bottom in a big way. Even now they don't associate their various hardships with the current government. It's going to be a rude awakening and when it finally occurs to the masses, it will be too late. It will take decades to repair.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:27 AM
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20. It could be years before folks 'wake up'
Edited on Sat Mar-05-05 09:28 AM by bigtree
or it could be tomorrow. That's the strangest thing I've noticed about our society. All it takes is something hyped in the media, usually something that has been out there for a while, and then we're off to the races. Kinda makes one believe in the theory that the media is controlled by some overriding cabal who pull the trigger whenever it pleases them. Americans can be such sheep. I tend to believe that when Bush threatens the power structure enough by his bungling then they'll let him have it. But, remember, there's still that orgre Cheney in the way. During Watergate they took down Agnew before they took down Nixon. Let's hope they act soon so we can just trample over President Guliani in '08 like we did Ford.
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