What "liberal" places no limits or boundaries on behavior?

Just Me

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Fri Mar-04-05 08:32 PM
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What "liberal" places no limits or boundaries on behavior?

Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 08:33 PM by Just Me

Every "liberal" I know advocates "do no harm", first,...fight and control those who do harm, if necessary.

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da_chimperor

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Fri Mar-04-05 08:33 PM
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1. Anarchists? But I doubt you'd refer to them as liberals . . .

:shrug:

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LisaLynne

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Fri Mar-04-05 08:35 PM
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2. None.

That's just what the "other side" wants to portray us as. The liberals I know spend a lot of time thinking about the sort of person they want to be, what they feel is right, how they can help others, and how their actions might harm others.

The "other side" has a problem with even trying to not call others offensive names -- i.e., how they went after "political correctness".

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Just Me

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Fri Mar-04-05 08:49 PM
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4. The right-wingers also do the "aren't you open-minded" thingy,...

,...which totally pisses me off.

Being open minded with respect to problem solving does NOT mean we advocate harmful behavior.

I am sick of the right-wing attacking anyone who doesn't toe-their-destructive-line as a "liberal".

Their bullying is just, plain fascist,...and I am sick of it!!!

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The Velveteen Ocelot

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Fri Mar-04-05 08:41 PM
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3. Oh, but we're totally depraved; didn't you know that?

We attend Black Masses, sell porn to third-graders, insist that everybody engage in same-sex marriages, sneak into churches and steal the communion wine, get high on meth and bust up nativity scenes on Christmas Eve, perform unwanted abortions on married white Baptist women and sell the fetuses to scientists for experiments, sell pot to kids at day care centers, sell steroids to Little League teams, abduct little boys from Sunday Schools and sell them to NAMBLA members.... And that's just for starters. Wait til you find out what we have planned for next year!

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Hoping4Change

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Fri Mar-04-05 08:56 PM
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5. Libertarians don't set limits and get thrown into the liberal camp

when in fact they old an extreme rightwing ideology.

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kodi

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Fri Mar-04-05 08:57 PM
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6. no liberal does.

a liberal by definition is cognizant of a social contract between people and between people and the collective and the boundary conditions are defined by the value systems of the participants.

this is best reflected and quantized by the rights and the responsibilities of the participants in fulfilling the social contract.

a liberal's viewpoint is a product of recognizing the value of the social contract on an individual level, and cedes that boundaries and limits on behavior are inherent in participation in the contract and accruing the benefits that flow from it.

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Sir Derek

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Fri Mar-04-05 09:00 PM
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7. Liberal Pragmatism sometimes seems divorced from

morality, when nothing could be further from the truth. It is simply a recognition of reality. For example, one hands out needles to heroin addicts, not because one advocates drug use, but because it stops the spread of disease. One offers abortions in a clinic, not because one advocates abortion, but because it is better than having a pimp do the abortion in a back ally. Liberals look for practical solutions to ethical problems, while conservatives content themselves by squealing like stuck pigs, wailing at the moon, and wallowing in self-righteous hypocrisy.

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Just Me

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Fri Mar-04-05 09:13 PM
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9. Hmmm,...*LOL*,...I consider myself a "liberal pragmatic",...

,...and your post rather contradicts my perspective. I dont' seek to hand out needles to addicts in order to stop disease or "push" abortions to convene on behalf of "pimps".

LMAO!!!

Do you,..."squealing like stuck pigs, wailing at the moon, and wallowing in self-righteous hypocisy",...kinda' "liberal" guy/gal?

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Sir Derek

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Fri Mar-04-05 09:17 PM
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11. I guess I was thinking about Dutch Liberals mainly.

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Just Me

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Fri Mar-04-05 09:38 PM
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12. "Dutch",...really,...*LOL*

Do share.

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Sir Derek

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Fri Mar-04-05 09:58 PM
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13. Holland strikes me as one of the cradles of Liberalism. Descartes

published his Discourse on Method there, ushering in the Modern Age, so the Pope couldn't cut his head off. The Dutch have a very pragmatic approach to social problems. They manage them, rather than trying to eliminate them, which in the end, is an impossible task.

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LynnTheDem

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Fri Mar-04-05 10:05 PM
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16. Canada does it too, Just Me.

To prevent spreading diseases, addicts can get clean sterile needles and must use them there on the spot so the needles are safely disposed of.

It would be great to wave a magic wand and make all addicts clean again; we don't happen yet to have any such wand, so at least we can fight one side of the battle.

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Just Me

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Fri Mar-04-05 09:16 PM
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10. Do you "pay" to watch or are you being paid to participate?

Just wondering?

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LynnTheDem

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Fri Mar-04-05 10:02 PM
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15. I bow to such a perfectly stated post, Sir Derek!

Do you *ahem* happen to have one of them black leather knight's outfits, too? :D

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Sir Derek

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Fri Mar-04-05 10:13 PM
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17. Yes but I only wear it when I'm riding the Drysdal.

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LynnTheDem

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Fri Mar-04-05 10:48 PM
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18. Oooohhhh...

*purrrrrrrrr*

I like knights in black leather.

*wink wink nod nod*

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murray hill farm

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Fri Mar-04-05 09:05 PM
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8. Hey...who said that?????

What does that even mean? i, for one, know for sure i would like to put some boundaries of a few repugs behavior. I never hear this kind of crap about liberals..really..maybe i just hang out with librals..which is probably true..but really..i never hear this crap.

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LynnTheDem

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Fri Mar-04-05 10:00 PM
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14. If we placed no limits or boundaries on behavior, we wouldn't criticize

the evil crap the republicans do.

DAMN but rightwingnuts are STUPID!

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Bouncy Ball

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Fri Mar-04-05 11:16 PM
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19. If I didn't place any limits or boundaries on behavior

I'd have a pretty out of control kid, wouldn't I?

And I'd also just sit back and say everything bushco does is just FINE with me.

And I don't. An anarchist might not place any limits or boundaries on behavior..... :shrug:

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