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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:49 PM
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Is There a "Got the Boss By the Balls" Labor Situation Developing???
Just want to take a Republican talking point to what has to be it's logical conclusion.

The Bush scum are traveling the country telling the people that we have to rip apart Social Security because when we elders retire there is just not enough of you youngins' coming up in the ranks to support us. Wellllllllllll....

...doesn't that also mean that when we kiss corporate America goodbye that they then are left with a real labor shortage??? And doesn't that mean that even the lowliest typist could demand $50 an hour or they will go work elsewhere? And doesn't that mean a ton of money pouring into SS?? Or more to the point of why I posted this: Hey, youngins' do you have any ideas on how these corporate pigs intend to deal with that shortage?? I just can't see that they will pay you big money. So what are they planning to do for labor??? Scary isn't it............now make sure you run along and join the army to bring them some real cheap labor--I mean, (cough, cough) deeemockracy to them thar poor peoples of the earth. And now maybe you know exactly what all this shit is about.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:50 PM
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1. They're outsourcing almost every type of job (nt)
nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:59 PM
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3. That's the way I see it.
The American worker is rapidly becoming superfluous in the global economy, which is the only one that matters to the corps. Retirees are also superfluous, but they still have all that SS money coming in, which the corps want to grab as expeditiously as possible. They will bankrupt their way out of responsibility for paying off on 401k's, & will force younger workers to put their meager retirement money into the market, where it too can be harvested periodically a la Enron. The next step will be to renege on ongoing payments to current retirees because "the system is in crisis." Greenspinner is already talking that way.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:18 PM
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5. It's beginning to appear that the corporations want older people,
overweight people, and poor people to go ahead and die. They are a financial liability to them.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:54 PM
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2. Couldn't they, wouldn't they, shouldn't they just do what they have
been a duin and outsource pert' near everything??

Amma walkin' to New Orleans....
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:16 PM
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4. Not yet. Too many people needing work. That will come later.
There are certain types of jobs that can't be outsourced.
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:31 PM
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6. The only way to prevent this...
Hello from Germany!

For the unions and the labour-parties, the only way to prevent this is to become MULTINATIONAL, just the way the corporations did. As long as this doesn't happen, they can always hijack us, they can even hijack every single national government. There's always another place, where the labour-costs are cheaper...
People in France and Germany and nearly everywhere else are told exactly the same lies about social security, the "demographic factor" etc. ppp.
In Europe, the Unions at least start to become aware of that, but much to late...


Dirk
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:57 PM
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7. You're right, of course. It's in labor's self-interest
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 10:58 PM by Jackpine Radical
to bring up the wages & working conditions of labor around the world. But the ami labor movement is somewhere between comatose & moribund & getting weaker by the day. Only about 12 or 15% (I don't remember exactly) of the labor force is unionized. With unemployment as high as it is here (much higher than the official numbers), union-busting is the order of the day. The poor minimum-wage schmucks are getting dosed by our supposed "liberal media" with Fundamentalism and perverted "moral values," & all they can think about is making sure some gay-loving baby killer of a politician doesn't sneak into office. They have no concept of what their own enlightened self-interest would look like.
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:21 PM
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9. Not much different here...
the unions are losing members, although the situation for the workers, not to mention the unemployed, just gets worse and worse.
One somehow funny thing: General Motors (they own Opel in Germany since many decades)is doing nearly exactly, what some german car-manufacturers are doing in the USA. Exactly the same: they are hijacking their workers against one another, threaten to go to east-eurpoe, and they prefer to build plants away from the traditional industrial regions, where most of the workers are still organized, and change to places, where people are willing to take every kind of slave-job and accept the worst conditions.

Dirk

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infusionman Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:10 PM
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8. The reason for SS change...
Bush was supported by wall street and now he owes them.

So he's going to take OUR money and give it to them in the market. It will NEVER make money for those retiring in the future.

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