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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:13 AM
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Two Years Into The Occupation And We Still Can't Drive To The Airport?!?!?
This is one thing I really do not get. It has been bugging me for all this time. The recent incident with the Italian hostage clearly highlights the issue.

How can this be? Do we not even have enough troops to secure a single road to the airport FOR TWO YEARS???

What the hell are we doing to correct this problem? If we can't secure a singe road can we in ANY WAY claim that we have any level of security established?

How can they claim we are WINNING?

When is America going to get a clue?

I sure hope the Italians take to the streets! It is sickening!



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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:19 AM
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1. I've never understood this, either
One seven-mile stretch of treeless, flat road between Baghdad and the airport and it's still not secure? They even have a nickname for that highway to hell (one which escapes me at the moment). If we can't secure one short, stinking road then how the hell can anyone claim we have secured the country? What a joke.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:22 AM
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2. Mission Accomplished
:thumbsup:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:23 AM
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4. For Someone!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:22 AM
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3. Most likely Highway Of Death!
They love to tack that onto places and things. Triangle of death, Winnibagos of death, etc.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:32 AM
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5. with Berlusconi?
The Italians are subjects living in a nation ruled by the owner of their press.

It's just as bad there, with Berlusconi, as it is here with Bush.

Even the Pope is a mad, fascistic, rightwing fundie.

Sue
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:38 AM
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6. All The More Reason To Hit The Streets If You Ask Me!
That's why I'm on the streets against Bush.

When the going gets tough and all that...
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:13 AM
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9. Not as bad
Berlusconi owns the TV outlets but not the newspapers, which are a lot more diverse, ranging from communist to right-wing. There has already been much outrage against the war and there will be even more now.
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:44 AM
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7. It's a matter of priorities, silly
sure roads to airports are important, but what really counts is that our oil fields are safe.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 09:56 AM
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8. Well That's True!
Edited on Sat Mar-05-05 09:57 AM by DistressedAmerican


I think this administration are like locusts and will hang around until they suck the sand dry. No political solution, no withdrawl, until it is GONE!

VERY sad! We'll just have to force them out!
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:16 AM
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10. For what it's worth . . .
It's not treeless (at least it wasn't when I was there). There're moderate-sized trees and a sort of grey-green brush ideal for hiding in (I suppose they could have cleared it last year, after I left).

With regard to the oil -- that ain't secure either. They blow up the pipelines and mortar both the existing facilities and any new ones anyone tries to build. Same as with the power supplies and the water systems.

It's a sizable country and they live there. The insurgents can walk the streets with no more likelihood of being killed than any other Iraqi (an unacceptably high risk, I admit). The bad guys can do whatever they please.

This comes as a surprise to our brilliant leaders but is what the rest of us -- those of us who were in the streets before the war -- predicted with uncanny accuracy.

I've always wondered why we, with access only to the press, were so right, and the Schimpanski regime, with access to the best intelligence money could buy, were so wrong. Any chance they're dumbf*cks?
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:29 AM
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12. My understanding is...
... the offending flora was mostly cleared out months ago, precisely to eliminate possible hiding spots.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:50 AM
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13. Thanks for that info.
Any idea why the wouldn't have cleared brush that was ideal for hiding in in two years? Seems odd to me.

Couldn't we keep this stretch of road check pointed to high heaven and under constant heavy surveillance from the air? I am no military man. I just do not really get it.

We are not talking about the Hi Chi Minh Trail here.

Good point about the oil. NOTHING is secure! It doesn't seem to be getting any better either.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:26 AM
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11. The Iraqi Information Minister says:
"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"

"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!"

"I can assure you that those villains will recognize, will discover in appropriate time in the future how stupid they are and how they are pretending things which have never taken place."

"Now even the American command is under siege. We are hitting it from the north, east, south and west. We chase them here and they chase us there. But at the end we are the people who are laying siege to them. And it is not them who are besieging us."

"Their failure in this regard is abysmal. They want to tell the world changes thought - as a matter of fact, they do not respect the world, they want to tell taxpayers and the domestic public to keep them deceived. We will embroil them, confuse them and keep them in the quagmire. They have begun to tell more lies so that they might continue with the perpetration of their crimes. May they be accursed."

"I would like to clarify a simple fact here: How can you lay siege to a whole country? Who is really under siege now? Baghdad cannot be besieged. Al-Nasiriyah cannot be besieged. Basra cannot be besieged."

"That bastard the American Minister of Defense Rumsfeld, and I won't say shamelessly, because they don't know what shame means. These are criminals. The whole word can hear the warning sirens. This criminal sitting in the White House is a pathetic criminal and his Defense Minister deserves to be beaten. These criminals lie to the world because they are criminals by nature and conditioning. They consider this a military site! Shame on you! You will forever be shamed! You have ruined the reputation of the American people in the most terrible way! Shame on you! And we will destroy you!"

"They are trapped in Umm Qasr. They are trapped near Basra. They are trapped near Nasiriyah. They are trapped near Najaf. They are trapped everywhere."

"They are not in Baghdad. They are not in control of any airport. I tell you this. It is all a lie. They lie. It is a hollywood movie. You do not believe them."

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:52 AM
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14. Who woulda thunk it . . .
He wasn't talking about 2003, but 2005!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:59 PM
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15. Now that the election is over, the violcnce should be ending soon!
the violcnce should be ending soon!
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