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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:18 PM
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Dr. David A. Yeagley - the right's counter to Ward Churchill
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 05:47 PM by paineinthearse
I attended a democratic forum yesterday at Umass, Amherst. The YAFfers had flyers plastered all over the student union stating “Ward Churchill was never an Indian. Indians have always known that. He’s pose as one for over 30 years, but not that the chicken’s come home to roost”.(Sorry for the grammar, it’s theirs, not mine.

...and a visit by Dr. David Yeagley.

Google “David Yeagley”:

Results 1 - 10 of about 13,900 for "david yeagley". (0.40 seconds)

The top hits include:

David Yeagley's BadEagle.com
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Young America's Foundation Speaker David Yeagley, columnist and ...
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David Yeagley, A Friend of Indians
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LoboWalk--Welcome to Blogville
... Friday, February 11, 2005. David Yeagley Rocks Bill O'Reilly's World. I caught David Yeagley on the Bill O’Reilly show last night discussing Ward Churchhill. ... www.lobowalk.com/index.php/weblog/david_yeagley_rocks_bill_oreillys_world/ - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

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It's the Casinos, Stupid, By David Yeagley FrontPageMagazine.com | November 18, 2004. Charlie Meadows thinks American Indian sovereignty should end. ... www.frontpagemagazine.com/ Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15996 - 37k - Cached - Similar pages

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……indicating Yeagler is a regular on the YAF speaker circuit and FAUX News.

From http://www.badeagle.com/

Bad Eagle.com is the first website for American Indian Patriots, and the only voice of conservative American Indian thought. Dr. David A. Yeagley, direct descendent of the Comanche warrior Bad Eagle (1839-1906), is the first conservative American Indian in the American media. Through Bad Eagle.com all conservative Indians are invited to join their voices in honor of Indian warriors in the cause of American Patriotism. Dr. Yeagley’s writing is featured regularly at the Young Americas Foundation, VDare.com The American Enterprise and David Horowitz’s FrontPageMagazine.com


From http://www.yaf.org/speakers/david_yeagley.html

DAVID YEAGLEY



David Yeagley is a Comanche Indian and member of the Comanche Nation.

Dr. Yeagley is a columnist for Front Page Magazine, the Internet newspaper run by David Horowitz. In his columns, Dr. Yeagley advocates conservative ideas from an American Indian point of view. These include the right of citizens to own firearms as well as the value of American patriotism.

In addition, Dr. Yeagley believes the American Indian warrior mascots and monikers are a positive image, and, when understood, are important in American society.

For the last five years, Dr.Yeagley taught Humanities and Psychology for Oklahoma State University. During those years he developed a concern for American patriotism.

In August of 2000, Dr. Yeagley presented the idea of teaching patriotism in public schools to Governor Frank Keating. The Governor supported the idea, and asked for a formal proposal to present to the Oklahoma State Legislature 2001 session. His proposal was presented to the Governor in November of 2000.

Dr. Yeagley was fired from OSU-OKC in May, 2001, as a result of his public advocacy of conservative views. In September, 2001, he began teaching for the University of Oklahoma's College of Liberal Arts.

Dr. Yeagley has appeared on radio stations throughout the country, and appeared on Hannity & Colmes with Russell Means in April, 2001. Yeagley makes public speaking appearances at colleges, clubs, and churches.

Dr. Yeagley holds degrees from Oberlin, Yale, Emory, University of Hartford, and the University of Arizona. He obtained his doctorate from the University of Arizona.

He was born and raised in Oklahoma City.

View his website at http://www.badeagle.com.


His own biography reveals his connection with the CIA's Pahlavai family/foundation.
http://www.badeagle.com/html/biography.html

David A. Yeagley was born in Oklahoma City. He is a direct descendent of Bad Eagle (quin-ne kish-su-it), headman of a Antelope (kwerharenu) Comanche band (1839-1909). Yeagley is an enrolled member of the Comanche Tribe, Lawton, Oklahoma.

He holds a Bachelor of Arts from Oberlin Conservatory of Music; a Master of Divinity from Yale University; a Master of Arts from Emory University; an Artist Diploma from Hartt School of Music; and a Doctorate of Musical Arts from the University of Arizona. He was a special student (doctoral level) at Harvard, in American Studies.

Yeagley is a classically trained pianist, composer, and lyricist. He has created a new system of harmonic organization, and presented it in a formal lecture in Israel, 1998. There his duet for oboe and bassoon, exemplifying the new tonality, was premiered. Yeagley has written a grand opera based on the story of Jack Eisner, a Holocaust survivor. He has written for solo guitar, Indian flute, chamber groups, voice, and orchestra.

Dr. Yeagley has studied religion, literature, and history. He has written many scholarly research papers, book-length manuscripts, and also epic poetry and fiction. He has written works on Christology, biblical studies, literary criticism (specializing in Poe and Hawthorne), and musicology.

Yeagley has a special interest in Persian culture. He wrote the only epic poetry in English in the 20th century. Jahan-dideh (1984) is a collection of seven epics, dedicated to Her Imperial Majesty, The Shahbanou of Iran Farah Diba Pahlavai. Yeagley writes regularly for Persian Heritage Magazine, and serves on the editorial board. Dr. Yeagley spent a two week lecture tour in Iran, 1999. He lectured at the University of Tehran, and at Ferdowsi University, Masshad. He visited Razavi University as well. He presented a paper on "Zoroaster and the Jews" to the Iranian Studies Conference in Washington in 2000, and is scheduled to present another, "David and Darius" 2002.

Yeagley is a portrait artist as well. In 1989, he created a genealogy in portraiture, "Bad Eagle and His Descendents," which showed at Yale Peabody Museum, Philips Academy Peabody Museum, and in Boston's President's Church (Quincy). This collection of portraits includes the male line of a single Comanche family, beginning with Bad Eagle, and ending with Yeagley himself.

Dr. Yeagley has written Indian poetry, and plays Comanche flute. He also gourd dances, and designed his own gourd.

Since January, 2001, Yeagley has written regular columns for Front Page Magazine, the internet news journal of David Horowitz . Yeagley has since appeared on national television and radio, and his articles have appeared in several newspapers in the country. Yeagley is also on the Young America's Foundation speakers list, and speaks at colleges and universities.

Dr. Yeagley is an American Indian Patriot, and has advocated the mandatory teaching of patriotism in public schools . His proposal to the Oklahoma State legislature was endorsed by Governor Frank Keating , and is currently being considered and refined for presentation in the near future.

Dr. Yeagley has taught at Oklahoma State University, Oklahoma City, University of Central Oklahoma, and currently teaches for University of Oklahoma. He has taught Humanities and Psychology since 1996. Yeagley has six years of social work experience in Connecticut, working with the elderly, and emotionally disturbed children and youth.


Any thoughts on his firing from OSU-OKC, or can any Oklahoma teachers shed more light on "mandatory teaching of patriotism in public schools", specifically providing examples of the curicula?
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 05:38 PM
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1. I sure would like to know why he was really "fired", if that ever happened
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 05:44 PM by Ms. Clio
"Dr. Yeagley was fired from OSU-OKC in May, 2001, as a result of his public advocacy of conservative views."

More likely, he was just another unlucky adjunct who had to move on.

On edit: As for his "scholarly research papers," I have yet to find one of them in 2 academic databases.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:26 PM
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8. Harvard sees crimson over pro-life activism
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22038

WEDNESDAY
MARCH 14
2001

<snip>

Academic double-standards aren't confined to Ivy League schools in the liberal East. Professor David Yeagley has been teaching at Oklahoma State University for five years, earning the praise of his students. He'll be gone after this semester. While the school won't say why he's being terminated, Yeagley was told by an administrator that he embarrassed the university by promoting a statewide course in patriotism in the public schools.

If Yeagley were crusading for infanticide (a cause championed by Princeton Professor Peter Singer), his activism would be considered a glittering asset to the university, instead of treated like a dotty aunt to be hidden away in an attic.

Colleges and universities should post their own signs: "Conservative students should keep their opinions to themselves. Conservative faculty should put their conscience in a blind trust for the term of their association with this institution." Then again, they really don't have to.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Don Feder is a columnist for the Boston Herald and the author of "Who is afraid of the Religious Right?" and "A Jewish Conservative Looks at Pagan America."

(note the Herald is a right wing tabloid)
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 06:39 PM
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9. He has real issues with women, especially white women
Edited on Mon Mar-07-05 06:52 PM by Ms. Clio
And I bet this was why he was fired:

What's Up With White Women?
May 18, 2001

by David Yeagley

Look Dr. Yeagley, I don’t see anything about my culture to be proud of. It’s all nothing. My race is just nothing."

The girl was white. She was tall and pretty, with amber hair and brown eyes. For convenience’ sake, let’s call her "Rachel."

(snip)

Her choice of words was telling. She was "happy" to be an American. But not "proud" of it.

On one level, I wasn’t surprised. I knew the head of our American History department at Oklahoma State University-OKC, and I recognized his hackneyed liberal jargon in Rachel’s words. She had taken one of his courses, with predictable results.

http://www.yaf.org/speakers/op-ed/yeagley_whitewomen.html


Publicly trashing the head of your department is always an incredibly bad idea. What a moran.

I also think it's interesting that his "work" is featured on such fine upstanding sites as "AryanUnity."

(Edited to add date of article--same month he was fired)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:59 AM
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11. I just did an extensive search of David A. Yeagley
As far as I can tell, he has not published ONE article in peer reviewed journals nor written any scholarly books. The most disturbing thing is I cannot find a dissertation attributed to this Yeagley guy. Here are the databases I used through my university:

Academic Search Premier
America: History and Life
Anthropological Index Online
Arts & Humanities Citation Index
Dissertation Abstracts
ERIC
JSTOR
LexisNexis Academic
Music Index Online
Networked Digital Library of Theses & Dissertations
Project Muse
Science.gov
Social Science Citation Index
Sociological Abstracts
WorldCat

*****

I found TWO publications, neither scholarly:

From amazon.com:

The dramatic word: A collection of gospel-centered plays for summer camps
by David Yeagley
Availability: Out of Print--Limited Availability
Edition: Unknown Binding

From Project Muse (academic/music index):

Awakening : ten etudes for solo Native American flute / 
Author: Yeagley, David Anthony. Publication: : JP-Publications, 2001
Document: Musical Score : Printed music : Studies & exercises, etude
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:10 PM
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12. I did find his dissertation, and 2 articles
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 01:11 PM by Ms. Clio
in the RILM Abstracts of Music Literature:


Liszt's Dante sonata: Origins and criticism (Main Record) By: Yeagley, David Anthony. Source: JALS: The journal of the American Liszt Society,

2. Franz Liszt's Dante sonata: The origins, the criticism, a selective musical analysis, and commentary (Main Record) By: Yeagley, David Anthony. Dissertation Source: DMA from University of Arizona 1994.

3. The historical influence of the string bow on musical notation (Main Record) By: Yeagley, David. Source: JALS: The journal of the American Liszt Society

I don't know how impressive it is to publish in such an obscure-sounding journal as the Journal of the American Liszt Society! But perhaps I just don't know the field and that's really a coup. However, he is not remotely qualified to teach U.S. history on a college level, IMO. And the fact that he never published a book, let alone an article, in the field, seems to explain why he lost his job. Publish or perish--and that doesn't mean rightwing bullshit.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:33 PM
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23. Ah! RILM...
I'm on my way to school and that was the FIRST printed reference collection I was going to use. Good on ya!

Well, I was ABD (PhD in musicology) before switching disciplines, but I have not read The journal of the American Liszt Society, so I cannot comment on the quality - it is, at least, listed in RILM.

Since I haven't read Yeagley's diss/thesis, I cannot say much other than I seriously doubt they are seminal works. There are thousands of critiques of Liszt's work and imagine his "Dante Sonata" has been covered before (especially in French and German journals, and thesis/diss). Does the subject call for dissertation research? I doubt it. European composers from the Ars Nova period (and before, back to Pope Gregory) until this century have been exhaustively covered by tens of thousands of theorists and musicologists. Even the obscure manuscripts, like the ones I worked with in Cataluña en Los Pirineos, have been scoured from end to end by hordes of researchers, DECADES before Yeagley was born.

His other work, "The historical influence of the string bow on musical notation," is a topic that was exhausted by the time of Nicolo Paganini. A newer school(s) of string/bow theory was rehashed in the 20th C by many European and American institutions (I'm a plucked string player). I did a lot of work on ancient-modern theoretical treatises concerning instrument building, performance technique, schools of thought, I studied Medaeval-20th C. music notation (black note/white mensural/CAD) and manuscript making/early printing, etc. ad infinitum...

Put it this way, Yeagley does not exist in the dialectic of musicology/theory nor in performance criticism, nothing in history or social sciences... HE DOES NOT EXIST! :)
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:16 PM
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24. Thanks very much for the musicology info., I confess to complete ignorance
But even I thought that his dissertation topic sounded pretty weak.

I think it's amazing he kept his job as long as he did--in five years of teaching, he has not published so much as a book review!
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 06:03 PM
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2. The Indianz.com website seems to have the lowdown on this nutbar
And this article from Indian Country Today is scathing:

Harjo: One small and unworthy man

(snip)

Yeagley's Web site claims that he teaches at the University of Oklahoma's College of Liberal Arts. OU doesn't have one of those, but it does have a College of Liberal Studies, which is quick to point out that Yeagley taught only "one course, one time" in the fall of 2001. The Horowitz Web site also falsely states that Yeagley teaches at OU.

(snip)

Juanita Pahdopony, a renowned Comanche educator, poet and artist, says, "Mascots perpetuate bigotry" and "hurt the esteem of Indian children."

Recently, when a high school in Nyack, N.Y., hired Yeagley to fight Indian people seeking to remove its Indian sports symbols, Pahdopony asked: "Why didn't (Nyack) fly me in? I'm Comanche; taught at Comanche Nation College; culturally 'connected' to the tribe; live in the community; advocate for Native people."

She would like to know when Yeagley has voted in Comanche General Council or visited or given back to the Comanche community.

Pahdopony takes Yeagley to task for calling the Mashantucket Pequots "black people" and questioning their tribal status.

"Today, I challenge his connection to the Comanche culture and Comanche people," says Pahdopony.

http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1044632709
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 06:25 PM
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3. go, go Ms. Clio
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 06:29 PM by paineinthearse
Keep digging and exposing this potential fraud.

Can any mid-east schollars shed any light on Persian Heritage Magazine or the Iranian Studies Conference? Or the papers "Zoroaster and the Jews" or "David and Darius"?

And I have to laugh at "He visited Razavi University as well...". My 14yo can say he visited Harvard and several other universities.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 06:38 PM
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4. Yes, he seems to have made a career out of collecting useless degrees
And writing conservative drek, instead of scholarly articles.

And his claim to be Comanche, let alone speak as one, may be highly dubious.

Here's more, from anthropologist Thomas Kavanaugh:

> Tom:
>
> > Yes. He's not a regular, but go to their site and do a site search on
> > Yeagley. He uses a very minimal knowledge of Comanche culture and history
> > to promote conservative ideas. He is either one-eighth or one sixteenth
> > Comanche depending upon how you count the generations, and whether or not
> > his ancestor Quenakesuite ('Bad Eagle') was or was not a Mexican captive.

This is the first time I've ever heard of David Yeagley, but since you
> mentioned he's either 1/8 or 1/16 Commanche(and I will state right now I
> know nothing whatsoever about Commanche culture, so I won't open my
> cybermouth on that issue), this brings up an issue. Is he even *qualified*
> to speak?

He claims to be an enrolled member. I don't know what the Comanche Nation's current DIB (Degree of Indian Blood) requirements are now, but in the early 1980s when I was doing some research on the history of the development of the tribal constitution, it was 1/4.

BTW, I happen to know Yeagley's geneaology because at the same time as I was doing the above constitutional research, I was looking at Comanche society and demography as they related to how the people chose their allotments, and so created a database with all of the Comanche tribal censuses from 1879 to 1923. The Yeagley's (David's mother and aunt, and then David himself) wrote to me and we corrresponded for several years. At the time he was a "special student" at Harvard, and claimed MAs from Yale Divinity School and Emory University, and a BA in Music from Oberlin Conservatory. I lost track of him about 1989, and it was not until a few years ago that he resurfaced as a commentator on Front Page. He has added a Dr. to his name but I don't know where he got it.

http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0312&L=anthro-l&F=&S=&P=10058

I'm also going to check the H-Net Native American list, as I am sure he has been discussed there, too.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:28 PM
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5. 1/8 or 1/16, wow, I'm impressed! nt
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:50 PM
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6. Interestingly, I found nothing at all on H-AmIndian about Yeagley
Apparently, those who actually study Native American history and culture don't consider this clown important enough to discuss.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:44 PM
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7. Is there a DU Native Americans group?
I can't find one.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:20 AM
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10. Yeagley writes of Hoffman's resignation
http://www.badeagle.com/

Bad Eagle speaks - from David Yeagley’s Weblog

Resignation-As-Manoeuver from the Bad Eagle Journal

----------------------------------------------------------------------

So now University of Colorado president Elizabeth Hoffman has resigned. Sounds powerful, but, remember, Ward Churchhill "resigned," too--but only from being Chairman of the Department of Ethnic Studies. And, even from the brief news reports about Hoffman's "resignation," it doesn't sound like she suffering from unemployment.

"It appears to me it is in the university's best interest that I remove the issue of my future from the debate so that nothing inhibits CU's ability to successfully create the bright future it so deserves," she wrote. In an interview with The Associated Press, Hoffman said her decision to resign would give her time to help the university resolve the controversies.

Churchill's "resignation" resulted in a lower pay, from well over $100,000 as Chair, to $94,242, as "professor," reportedly. How crippling. So what will Hoffman's "resignation" cost her? Probably a similar re-positioning on the University administration. She has supported Churchill. Hoffman said last week that Churchill would not be fired if the review turns up only inflammatory comments, not misconduct.

The problem is the professional structure of the state unversity, and the magical, medieval status of "tenure." It takes more than an act of Congress, it seems, to rid the university of an unwanted professor. It's a job security establishment that excels all others. The professor not only claims the right to have it, but does so in order to justify his "activity," whatever that happens to be.

more......
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. He's such a whining loser
And what a hokey-ass website...LMAO.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:18 PM
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14. And then if you read the comments to the article
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 01:23 PM by Ms. Clio
He calls African-Americans "Negroes." Such an ass. And he seems to believe race is a real biological concept, not a social construct.

On edit, this jackass needs to be exposed and taken down. He writes:

"I've seen black men actually beg, with tear in eye, for a white woman to go to bed with him. I've SEEN it!"

or this:

"Some women are really desperate, too. This is a fact. They can't find the attention they want, and there's generally a black man waiting in the aisles, so to speak. This happens often."
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:25 PM
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15. I wonder how much Horowitz and whomever pay these sorts of people
to be their spokesmen/women.

It's esp. weird when they pay people like A.Coulter to trash women. People with Native American heritage (even if its thin) to work against their groups interests, etc.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:55 PM
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20. On the alt.native newsgroup, many of the posters call him an "apple"
red on the outside, white on the inside.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:30 PM
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16. There are some inaccuracies in his biography
particularly the one from the yaf site, which claims he is currently teaching at the University of Oklahoma's College of Liberal Arts. Oklahoma does not have a College of Liberal Arts, so that is wrong. Other articles refer to the College of Liberal Studies, which is a school in OU's College of Continuing Education intended for adult learners returning to school. It isn't quite the same as being on the faculty at the University of Oklahoma, at least as most people would think of it.

Also, he's not currently listed on the faculty list for the College of Liberal Studies anyway.

Just for the record.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:37 PM
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17. He taught there for only one semester
He has no business teaching history or the humanities at all.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:46 PM
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18. Thanks for the info and bravo on the leg work
I just read the post above where you noted that the CLS at OU said he only taught one course.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:52 PM
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19. Thanks for your info., too
I hadn't realized that the CLS was a program for returning students.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 01:57 PM
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21. yup I saw him on FOX news when the Churchill thing started.
first wingnut native American I had ever heard before. I wonder if he celebrates Columbus day, I mean, if an asian wingnut lady can right a book about the joys of interning the Japanese during WWII, why not? :shrug:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 02:05 PM
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22. Well I can't say if Churchill is a "real" Native American
or not but at his first speech after the "scandal" broke he was guarded by Russel Means and AIM. I doubt highly AIM would stand up with him if he wasn't at least partially Native American or sympathetic to their cause.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 03:22 PM
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25. Russell Means is a real hard-core militant, so he must
know that Churchill has Native American roots.
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