Do we dare start calling him President Toast?

I'm sure tempted, but it's an evolution I've been hoping I'd see at some point. But these things always start off great and then fizzle. Your perspective is MOST welcomed!

And by the way - forgive my ignorance, but where/how did "Whistleass" start?

http://www.madison.com/captimes/news/stories/55234.php
Capital Times - Madison, Wisconsin

Obituary backs 'removal of Bush'
Woman 'thought he was a liar'

Maybe someone could search for it and post a link.

:bounce:

President Toast goes into the next one I see.

Don't you dare!

Go back to this equivalent period in Clinton's Presidency. The punditocracy had him DEAD and BURIED, "irrelevant," in their short-sighted words.

You never never never NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER underestimate a political adversary before the votes are counted.

NEVER.

Don't do it, I'm begging ya! Even if Bush IS toast (which he is), the best way to make him not be toast is to treat him like he's toast!

we've had him walking the plank before and have been astounded to see him wriggle out of it repeatedly. But it just seems as though lately there's a "pile-on." The questions don't seem to be going away, and some of them actually seem to be gathering momentum. And, today of all days, he's not being cannonized so much in the media, at least that I notice. There are many more critical things, like on Hardball and Keith Olbermann. There are 9-11 widows going on camera and not mincing words. You'd presume, ordinarily, that it would be an untouchable subject today because we'd all be much too busy paying homage to our warrior president and his "l'etat c'est moi" attitude that none of this would see the light of day. And if it tried, it would be suppressed. That doesn't seem to be going on as much today. And I'd consider him to be back up to full Teflon on a day like this.

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Am I prepared to call him that. I hate to hold my breath that long, but it will be worth the wait when he loses again, and this time with no help from the Supreme Court, daddy, Jeb, or a compliant Congress to bail him out.

... until he's stale breadcrumbs feeding the other jailbirds.

Al Gore and Joe Lieberman *won* the election in 2000. Al Gore kicked Shrub's pants off in Florida by ~46,000 votes. He beat Shrub nationwide be more than half a million votes. Had Florida been awarded to Al Gore as the voters in Florida wanted then Al Gore would have won by 45 (46 without the abstention) electoral votes.

"More than 113,000 voters cast ballots for two or more presidential candidates. Of those, 75,000 chose Mr. Gore and a minor candidate; 29,000 chose Mr. Bush and a minor candidate. Because there was no clear indication of what the voters intended, those numbers were not included in the consortium's final tabulations."
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/politics/recount/12VOTE.html

~46,000 is the margin that Al Gore *actually* won Florida by. *That* was the intent of the voters. Not some measly ~200 votes. Also, *without* those ~46K votes Al Gore still won according to Florida law (had SCOTUS not *unconstitutionally* interfered).
Sources:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/elections2000/recount/yourvote.html
http://slate.msn.com/?id=2058793
http://www.geocities.com/dearkandb/supremeqanda.html
http://www.the-rule-of-law.com/
http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html

Also, Al Gore got more popular votes that any other presidential candidate in the history of the United States, except for the time that Reagan won 49 out of 50 states' electoral votes. This was done while fending off an attack from the left *and* while fighting against a heavily biased media.
Sources:
http://www.mediachannel.org/views/whistleblower/palast.shtml
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=181&row=1
http://www.dailyhowler.com/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=90&forum=DCForumID45
http://www.mediawhoresonline.com/

Count ballot as a vote if vote is indicated, but marked incorrectly. Example
Vote is indicated and marked correctly, but the candidate's name is also written in. Example
Ballot condition is agreed upon by at least two judges.
Count ballot as a vote if the chad is at least dimpled. Example
Final Tally: Gore won Florida by 107 votes.

Count ballot as a vote if vote is indicated, but marked incorrectly. Example
Vote is indicated and marked correctly, but the candidate's name is also written in. Example
Ballot condition is agreed upon by at least two judges.
Count ballot as a vote if the chad is detached from one or more corners. Example
Final Tally: Gore won Florida by 72 votes.

Count ballot as a vote if vote is indicated, but marked incorrectly. Example
Vote is indicated and marked correctly, but the candidate's name is also written in. Example
Ballot condition is agreed upon by at least two judges.
Count ballot as a vote if the chad is fully detached from ballot.
Final Tally: Gore won Florida by 430 votes.
Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/elections2000/recount/yourvote.html

For the count we've been keeping since Election Day, these are now the final numbers for a state-wide cumulative media recount.
http://www.unknownnews.net/election2000.html#count

As a matter of fact, it's the first time I've actually chosen to use the appellation "President" because, conceptually, it sounds good with "Toast." That's the only way I see that it applies. Otherwise, as you very correctly point out, I wince a little, every time I hear him called "President Bush" because it's not an office he earned, deserved, or actually won.

President Toast which landed on the floor, butter side down.

Let's just call him Shithead. Or Evil Shithead.

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Prsident is undeserved. And Toast will really piss him off.

...

Bush Resignation Hailed by World Leaders Thursday, September 11, 2003

The surprise resignation of the forty-third President of the United States, George W. Bush, on the second anniversary of the terrorist attack on America, was hailed by chiefs of state throughout the world. Mr. Bush announced that after, "two years of bloodshed, economic devastation, and spreading fear in America and abroad," he saw no choice but to accept that, "I have held a title which I did not win, and for which I have proven unqualified."

The text of the former President's September 11 address to the nation follows:

"My fellow Americans:

I come to you tonight with a heavy heart. Two years ago today, thousands of innocent Americans were murdered by terrorist maniacs.

In the script I've been handed, I'm now supposed to tell you that America is safer today, and that the world is kinder and nicer and happier, because of I'm such a brilliant general in the War on Terror.

But who are we kidding? Yesterday, Osama released his new hit video. The terrorists are having a picnic ever since I turned over our foreign policy to Saudi Arabia and Exxon-Mobil.

And here's the point in my speech where my handlers would have me tell you about how I've been praying hard, making it sound like I just got off the phone with the Lord. I don't know about you, but I find it pretty darn offensive, downright blasphemous, to drag the Lord's name into every cheap campaign speech and chest-pounding war threat. Osama says he talks to God too. Let's leave Him out of the politics from now on, OK?

Look, in my speech this past Sunday, I used the word "democracy" about 11 times when talking about Iraq. It's democracy Florida-style, I suppose. Except we're not fixing the vote this time … we aren't letting these people vote at all. "Iraqis aren't prepared for democracy." That's what Dick Cheney and Saddam Hussein told me.

So we're blowing 100 billion bucks we don't have to colonize a country we don't want. Rummy tries to explain it to me each morning -- oil this and oil that -- but I just don't see it. And one of our kids dying there every day - where are their parents, anyway? My dad didn't let that happen - he got me out of the service. Didn't I look neat in that fly-boy suit?

And, let me tell you, I just looked at our nation's piggy bank. Uh-oh.

When I arrived, the last guy left me $4 trillion and said, "Be careful with all that cash in this neighborhood." Well, I have to level with you, America: it's all gone. The cupboard's bare and this year alone we blew half a trillion more dollars than we have in our bank account. Man, I can't believe I went through all that dough stone sober.

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=275&row=0

Fling it frisbee style at the motorcade:) It's not really littering, you're just "feeding the birds"..:)