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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:50 AM
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Man committed suicide linked to killing of Judge's family.
"CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- A man who committed suicide during a routine traffic stop near Milwaukee, Wisconsin, left a note claiming responsibility for killing the husband and mother of a federal judge in Chicago, police sources said Thursday."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/10/judge.bodies/index.html
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:51 AM
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1. Patsy?
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:57 AM
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3. I have to admit that was my first thought.
But then I thought maybe my :tinfoilhat: was on too tight this morning.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:20 AM
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16. My thoughts exactly!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:53 AM
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2. Yeah It's a good thing that's cleared up
Now there is no reason for us to go sticking our noses into other peoples business, now that this matter has been completely wrapped up.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:59 AM
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5. He Committed Suicide In Front Of The Cops
It might not be as diversionary as you might think.

This is, of course, ALL OVER the Chicago news.

I am willing to acknowledge that my instincts as to who did this were very likely wrong.

While everything isn't settled out yet, this is looking awfully high probablility.
The Professor
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:01 AM
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7. can you give a link to some of the Chicago news
it's hard to get the full picture from the CNN link.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:04 AM
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10. Yes
Go to Chicagotribune.com. They have the update as their main story.

Also, CLTV.com and the Suntimes.com.

I admit that these three sources have pretty much the same story, but not exactly so.
The Professor
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:12 AM
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14. thanks--will do
:hi:
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:57 AM
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4. How convenient, eh?
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:00 AM
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6. hmmm... confusing...
A man who committed suicide during a routine traffic stop near Milwaukee, Wisconsin, left a note claiming responsibility for killing the husband and mother of a federal judge in Chicago, police sources said Thursday.

This is confusing...did the guy write the note planning to kill himself, way before he was stopped by the police? Guess he was planning on doing it once he stopped the van, but since he was being pulled over decided to go on ahead and do it then:shrug: These details aren't real clear...
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:01 AM
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8. and the police just stood and watched?
nt
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:50 PM
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21. No. It started out as a routine traffic stop.
No tail lights, I believe I heard. The guy killed himself as the cop was approaching his vehicle.
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TSuspect3 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:03 AM
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9. This whack filed lawsuit after lawsuit regarding his
medical malpractice case which the judge eventually through out on a technicality. Motive, Motive, Motive!!!! Rueters said he'd talked about "wanting to do away with her" to his friends but they thought he wasn't being serious. He said he lost his house and savings fighting this lawsuit. Name is Bart Ross and looks like he did the city of Chicago a favor by killing himself. Patrolman who pulled him over and found the note was shaken up after he saw the brain matter all over the car! Press will be interviewing him this afternoon but probably won't release much.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:04 AM
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11. Bart Ross is the name going around.
suicide note indicate that he lost a law suit over cancer treatment that ruined his life credidt and family. Say the found over 300 22 caliber shell casings in his van. Victims were shot by 22 caliber. So Matt Hale is off the hook no link to White Supremacy.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:06 AM
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12. They should be able to match prints, DNA and confirm it
or there were others involved, at the very least.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:10 AM
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13. Ok...Now If you remember
They have composites of (2) suspects . Two were seen ...so there is likely more to this story. I never believed it was Hale , that would be very stupid on his part, and he's not stupid, he's Evil. More unanswered questions , why was Lefkow's state of the art surveillance system shut off?
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:15 AM
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15. Chicago: unique among American cities in that heroin from all four sources
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 10:21 AM by jmcgowanjm
-South America, Southeast Asia, Southwest Asia, and to a
lesser extent Mexico-is available on a consistent basis from
year to year.

http://www.stopaddiction.com/states/illinois_drug_info.html

Looking at the list of disasters Shackley has presided
over during his career, one might even conclude that on the
day the CIA hired Shackley it might have done better hiring a
KGB agent; a Soviet mole probably could not have done as
much damage to the national security of the United States
with all his wile as Shackley did with the most patriotic
of intentions.
Between Shackley's Cuban and Indochinese campaigns,
more dope dealers were probably put onto the payroll of
the United States Government, and protected and encouraged
in their activities, than if the government had simply gone out
and hired the Mafia — which, in the case of the
Cuban campaign, it
did.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=84&contentid=696&page=2
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:10 AM
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17. The amount of drug cash flowing into Wall Street and U.S. banks
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 11:11 AM by jmcgowanjm
was estimated to be around $250-$300 billion a year.

http://www.cam.net.uk/home/Nimmann/peace/opium.htm

MIDWESTERN BANK ROBBERIES: On March 13, 1998
Michael William Brescia was sentenced to 57 years in
prison

http://www.buildingdemocracy.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=186&Itemid=47

Michael Brescia is one of the members who leaps to
the forefront in any discussion concerning ties to
Timothy McVeigh.

http://eyeonhate.com/mcveigh/mcveigh7.html

"The crime has to be aimed at affecting a judge's
official
duties," said Scott Mendeloff, who helped lead a team of
federal prosecutors in the conviction of Timothy J. McVeigh in
the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing
case.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/030205K.shtml




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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:15 AM
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18. What does this have to do with the OP?
:shrug:
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:29 PM
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20. What better way to move heroin than thru a "Patsy" hate group
which for some reason is ignored by our awesome
intel networks.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=210&forum=DCForumID71&archive=yes

Lefkow has gotten mixed up in this heroin
trade somehow.

And Chicago could be at the center of it.





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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:12 PM
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22. Okay.
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:14 PM
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19. Kenny will be eligible to become an E-8 master sergeant in May 2005
why are groups of violent, hate-filled thugs allowed to thrive
when so many other dissident groups have been
suppressed? Clearly, they exist because they serve some
useful purpose for the
establishment.

Nearly 10 years after the bombing, a group of convicts,
police officers and defense attorneys find themselves in
an unlikely alliance calling for a new investigation of the attack.
A handful of active and former cops now say the FBI and
the Secret Service lied to them and obstructed
local investigations linked to the
bombing.

http://www.citybeat.com/gbase/Tools/PrintFriendly?url=http%3A//citybeat.com/2004-09-08/cover.shtml
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