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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:05 PM
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Thune says "The time may have come for this."
"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the flag burnings across the country?"

He's introducing a Constitutional Amendment.

Now, I don't think I've been in a cave for the last few years, but I really don't recall a plethora of flag burnings...Is this an introduction to another old issue being brought back to incite their masses?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:07 PM
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1. god, guns and gays.. also hate liberals
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:07 PM
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2. Are those his actual words?
He actually said that? I've never seen a flag burned, ever, in my entire life. I've only seen it on television.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:13 PM
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26. Yes, his exact words
as quoted in the Sun-Times Quick Takes which are not on line. And this coming right after dinner with Rummie.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:07 PM
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3. Burn Thune instead.
It would mean more.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:08 PM
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4. The time may have come to prohibit people from seeking public office
if they demonstrate a lack of understanding of the Constitution.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:08 PM
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5. Of course
Thune won in South Dakota with the help of a gay prostitute. I think someone should add an amendment to his amendment so that Thune's proposed amendment reads that flag burners and gay prostitutes working on campaigns should be prosecuted.

Sarcasm
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:20 PM
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14. Great idea...
Shoddy diversion tactic, don't you think?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:09 PM
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6. He confuses the middle east as the 51,52 and 53rd states
Being part of an empire is so confusing!
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:10 PM
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7. All of which flag burnings?
This is ridiculous.

If they pass this amendment, I'm going to drive to Washington, DC, pick up a gross of flags along the way, and have a barbecue on the Capitol steps. Anyone with me?
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:12 PM
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10. The look of shocked indignation would be priceless
I'm so sick of these idolaters.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:21 PM
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15. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
I can bring the coals...LOL!

Peace!
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:11 PM
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8. Perfect example of the GOP trying to use nationalism
as a means of blinding the public. I have no interest in burning the American flag until the day that it becomes illegal. As long as you are obeying all fire codes I have no problem with someone expressing their freedom of speech by burning the American flag in protest. Or even that the "proper" way to dispose of a worn flag is to set it on fire... Guess Thune supports throwing them into the trash and sending them to the dump.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:27 PM
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27. Ding, ding, ding!
Just like the many other Republican "issues," this is a cost-free hot-button issue that involves no deep thought, serious plans, or extensive effects on our lives. If it's not the flag, it's the pledge, if it's not the pledge, it's some substitute for a real policy on family, troops, children, education, the Bible, etc. Note that in almost all cases of these hot-button issues the right DOES NOT achieve its ends, but keeps the topic stashed for the next election. Makes me say, "Hmmmm."
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ProgressiveConn Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:53 PM
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28. Exactly. nt =(
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:12 PM
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9. time 2 haul out yet another
distracting, meaningless wedge issue. Got 2 get something out there to distract people from Soc Sec 'n the budget disaster. Thinkin of '06 mid-terms. Gotta get something......anything....out there
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:16 PM
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11. Doesn't matter whether there's a rash
of flag burnings or not. Tapping into the outrage ginned up by the mere thought of Commies disrespecting Old Glory can pay big dividends. Just ask Poppy.

Thune is blowing his wad too early though, it's a long way to 2006. Or maybe he's been put up to it to take the heat off the Bankruptcy/SS brouhahas.
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:19 PM
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12. They're all made in China
anyway, so what the fuck? Thune might want to ask his master why he desecrates the flag by putting his autograph on them by request.

So what are the Repubs trying to distract us from now?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:19 PM
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13. Yeah, I missed hearing about all those flag burnings
that have been going on all over the country, non-stop.

Must be because the liberal media isn't reporting it.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:29 PM
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16. I think they do everything for a reason. By saying this he implies that
the bad, bad liberals - and somebody please explain to me sometime why in the US the word "liberal" is almost the same as "leftist" if not "communist" - are actually burning the sacred flags that the freepers wrap around everything they lay eyes on.

This will incense the freepers because they will feel ridiculed as their "values" are "burned". The Bushistas are just trying to close fronts. Social security is not going too well, neither is the "cedar revolution" :puke: yet - so rally the sheeple behind their flags.

I think the GOP is much, much more clever than they're usually thought. Rove for me is behind every move they make and that man is Goebbels reborn.

------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:31 PM
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17. He needs to talk to Scalia,
who said last week that anyone offended by the display of the Ten Commandments on government property could just turn their head and not look.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:32 PM
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18. We heat our home with burning flags.
Cheaper than natural gas...

;)
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E-Z-B Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:41 PM
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19. LOL!!!
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:49 PM
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20. Flag burning. Freaking flag burning.
I mean, if the Democrats operated solely on wedge issues like the Republicans, what would our inane wedge issue be? Cat shaving? Butt scratching?
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 12:58 PM
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21. Did he crawl into a time machine
and come out on the other side of 1970?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:03 PM
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22. watch the issue come to the fore again
and it will work if ONE anarchist teenager burns a flag in front of a camera.

the GOP noise machine does what it wants, and the MSM bends over & takes it.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:24 PM
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23. Beats working for a living...
...doesn't it, Mr. Thune?
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:51 PM
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24. Flag burning is IN the United States Flag Code
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the joint resolution entitled "Joint resolution to codify and emphasize existing rules and customs pertaining to the display and use of the flag of the United States of America", as amended (36 U.S.C. 171-178), is amended --


(k) The Flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.


Now that doesn't specify burning the flag as a form of free speech or protest, but flag burning is a recognized, nee CODIFIED practice.

It's a very small stretch from burning per item (k) to burning as a form of free speech. The Flag represents BOTH actions as TRULY American.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:10 PM
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29. That's all anyone protesting ever has to say right there:
(k) The Flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.


Turns the perception around nicely into an act of patriotism, which it actually is.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 04:45 PM
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34. You're right. In fact I would argue bush*co has made EVERY
US Flag "no longer a fitting emblem for display" through their illegal actions.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:56 PM
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25. That's the day I'm no longer an American. nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:13 PM
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30. next week's wedge issue: making english the official language
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:14 PM
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31. "Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the starving
American children across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the poverty-stricken Americans across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the homeless Americans across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the jobless Americans across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the wounded soldiers waiting for medical treatment and suffering in squalor across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the American soldiers in Iraq being killed and wounded across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the US troops in Iraq going around with insufficient body and vehicle armor across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the pollution and destruction of our natural resources across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the increasing poverty levels across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the lack of quality health care for Americans across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the medically uninsured and under-insured Americans across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the uneducated Americans across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the further eroding of our infrastructure cross the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the illiterate Americans across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the leaking chemical and biological weapons we have stockpiled across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the unguarded and inadequately guarded nuclear sites across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the dumping of toxic wastes into our water system across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the violant crimes occuring across the country?"

"Shouldn't we have to do something, finally, about all the *insert any one of an endless number of actually important issues* across the country?"

Pardon my very unpatriotic stance, but to be honest I don't give a shit about burning a piece of fabric regardless what image is on that piece of fabric, because unAmerican that I am, I think there are more important issues.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:16 PM
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32. Ahhh, Thune, the Paragon. Don't burn the flag, but send your goons
on the Reservation to bully Native Americans so they won't vote. A Republican American.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:17 PM
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33. 1st let me just say Thune is a dumbass, ok thats out of the way....
he is a new senator and it's seems like in every new congress some ahole brings up a flag burning ammendment.
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