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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 01:56 PM
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Please, no more IDIOTIC threads about "The Voice of the White House."
"The Voice of the White House" is a NAZI. A HOLOCAUST DENIER. Tbrnews.org is a fascist, Nazi, extreme right-wing website.

Anyone posting links to that site here should be ashamed of themselves.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3169106

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:17 PM
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1. To make sure all of the Gannongate folks can see this.
:kick:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:20 PM
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2. Proof please
Thanks
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:22 PM
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3. Follow the link, Walt. eom
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:24 PM
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4. I did
Theres no proof. There is a single article and links to military history book stores.

:shrug:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:28 PM
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6. Did you read the essays on the site Walt? Those that deny the Holocaust?
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 02:35 PM by geek tragedy
Or did you read the books they sell--those written by HOLOCAUST DENIERS?

"Forged War Crimes, by Udo Walendy—A pictorial history of faked war crimes photos and the way they served to “prove” atrocities committed by the Germans. Recently, in Germany, a scandalous exhibit of “atrocity pic-tures” supposedly committed by the German army was exposed to be a hoax. Thousands of school children have been forced to attend this show, put on by Red “anti-fascists.” Exposing such lies earlier earned Walendy two jail terms. "


"Stalin’s War of Extermination: 1941-1945, by Joachim Hoffmann— Subtitled “Planning, Realization and Documentation,” the book covers Stalin’s plan for a World Revolution by conquering Europe in a war of extermination. The German Army did everything in its power to stifle these plans and we all know the final disaster that befell Germany."

"Gestapo Chief, Volume II—The candid details of: Stalin’s plans to kill FDR; lists of communist moles in the U.S. government, including three cabinet secretaries; the truth about why Rudolf Hess flew to England and his brutal treatment by the British; the communist murder of Mussolini and more."
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:34 PM
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9. Okay, I scrolled down a bit
You lost me when you linked the site to Barnes Review with no evidence and made the claim of links which were to military book stores. I gave up on your other post right there.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:36 PM
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10. Read the books they sell. Read the essays they publish that DENY
THE HOLOCAUST.

If you willingly cite to them in the future, there can be but one conclusion.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:40 PM
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12. Oh come off it!
The books at the stores they link to are World War II military history books! I've read some of the books on those sites!

You would be advised in the future to stop your spurious claims and only link to the fatual stuff you have, which were SOME of the archived essays (not all are denying the holocaust).
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:52 PM
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17. Read the booklist on their site.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 02:58 PM by geek tragedy
"Military history," huh?


Their booklist is self-described as a "Catalog that are of significant interest to historical and revisionist readers."

R-E-V-I-S-I-O-N-I-S-T spells "Holocast denier."

Let's read between the lines of their descriptions:

"Hitler: The Man & the Military Leader, by Percy Ernst Schramm. The author, a well-known German historian, functioned as the official war diarist for Hitler. “Hitler: The Man” comprises one part of the book, “The Military Leader” the other. In spite of the author’s unabashed bias against Hitler . . . "

Heaven forbid an author be biased against the worst murderer in history.

"Gestapo Chief, Volume II—The candid details of: Stalin’s plans to kill FDR; lists of communist moles in the U.S. government, including three cabinet secretaries; the truth about why Rudolf Hess flew to England and his brutal treatment by the British; the communist murder of Mussolini and more."

Ah, yes, Rudolf Hess and Benito Mussolini--the two great martyrs of WWII.

"Stalin’s War of Extermination: 1941-1945, by Joachim Hoffmann— Subtitled “Planning, Realization and Documentation,” the book covers Stalin’s plan for a World Revolution by conquering Europe in a war of extermination. The German Army did everything in its power to stifle these plans and we all know the final disaster that befell Germany. "

Poor Germany. It paid the price for fighting against global tyrrany! The SS were really freedom fighters, after all.


"
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:54 PM
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19. Sorry, I was looking at the bookstores in their "links" section
Not the booklist you just cited.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:57 PM
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24. Okay. Sorry for the mix up. eom
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:27 PM
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5. CENSORSHIP
I'll read whatever I damn please
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:29 PM
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7. Just don't post it here. Nazi publications are not allowed here.
If you want to talk about Nazi publications, go to stormfront.org
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:34 PM
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8. I have never posted anything about Holocaust deniers
Edited on Fri Mar-11-05 08:51 AM by Skinner
and never will. Quite the contrary. What have you posted lately? Since you care soooo much about the Jewish Holocaust? I've never seen you post on Haiti threads or Congo threads. When was the last time you posted a thread about the Holocaust to inform people of what happened?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1299318


http://slate.msn.com/id/2097314



By Ruth Gidley
LONDON (Reuters) - Brutal conflicts in Congo, Uganda and Sudan are the world's three biggest "forgotten emergencies," each dwarfing the toll of the Asian tsunami but attracting scant media interest, a Reuters poll of experts showed on Thursday.

War in Democratic Republic of Congo has claimed at least 10 times as many lives as the December tsunami yet remains almost unheard of outside of Africa, key players in the aid world said. "It's the worst humanitarian tragedy since the Holocaust," said John O'Shea, chief executive of Irish relief agency GOAL. "The greatest example on the planet of man's inhumanity to man."

Reuters AlertNet, a humanitarian news Web Site run by Reuters Foundation, asked more than 100 humanitarian professionals, media personalities, academics and activists which "forgotten" crises the media should focus on in 2005.

After Congo, they chose northern Uganda, west and south Sudan, West Africa, Colombia, Chechnya, Nepal and Haiti as the most neglected humanitarian hotspots.

...
EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

more
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews...


"IT'S THE WORST HUMANITARIAN TRAGEDY SINCE THE HOLOCAUST"
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:38 PM
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11. The point here is that some DU'er stupidly, foolishly, ignorantly cite to
a NAZI propaganda outlet.

What is going on in Africa is horrible, and is a stain on the entire planet--everyone bears some responsiblity.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:43 PM
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13. I don't know that I really consider them a Nazi propaganda outfit
I consider them to be along the lines of Rense and many other nutball sites. And yes, I agree, SOME of the articles you cited in your other thread were denying the holocaust. Not all of them were.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:47 PM
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:48 PM
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16. Not the links I looked at
Sorry, maybe they've changed their book store links since, b ut the only books I saw on those sites were factual military history books.

And yes, I agree that some of the essays on the site were denying the holocaust.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:54 PM
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:55 PM
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20. Yep, I looked at book stores linked to from another page
not the booklist page you just cited.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:56 PM
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22. Okay, so we agree they're pro-Nazi propagandists. Cool.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 02:56 PM by geek tragedy
In any event, they have no credibility.

"The Voice of the White House" = "some shit a fascist goon made up."
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:57 PM
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25. Yep, you've convinced me
I didn't see that book list before.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:46 PM
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14. The point is the thread did not get locked this time
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 02:49 PM by seemslikeadream
and you spend little effort to inform people of the true history of the Holocaust. Just short little quips, like it happened.

There are plenty MSM dening Congo and Haiti. Are you going to argue to banned them also?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:55 PM
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21. Holocaust denial is banned at DU. We don't want this site supporting
fascist thugs like those who publish tbrnews.org
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:57 PM
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23. You are the only one doing that
Show me some proof that you really care about the Holocaust
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:59 PM
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26. He's right, TBRNews is a Nazi Holocaust Denial site
It's true. I doubted it, but upon closer examination geek tragedy is 100% absolutely correct. They are Holocaust Denial History Revisionists.
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:09 PM
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28. Not only that
But if you want to waste some time, go back and reread "The Voice in the White House" posts again. Count how many times the word "Jew" pops up.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:59 PM
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27. What a bizarre request.
I don't know how someone is supposed to show they "care" about one of the greatest, if not the greatest, atrocities in human history.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:19 PM
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29. This is how I would do it, I can read, post & not be a Holocaust denier
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 03:44 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1233593

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1224233

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 06:30 PM
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32. seemslikeadream
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
copyrighted news source.


Thank you.


DU Moderator
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 03:56 PM
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30. Who died and made you moderator?
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 03:56 PM by Minstrel Boy
Seriously - isn't this one for Ask for the Administrators?

Actually, I hear what you're saying about Tbrnews, and a few months ago made my own decision not to post from it since I decided it was a dubious source. But I strongly object to how you are saying it.

I've come to believe "Voice of the White House" is a hoax, and probably written by "Gregory Douglas" - or whatever his real name is - who has a number of clever hoaxes to his credit. (One, Regicide, about the JFK assassination, I purchased, so it's personal.)

Free thinkers chaffe at being told what to think. I like to think for myself. I don't like to chaffe.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 04:36 PM
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31. Trying to educate the folks as to what TVOTWH is really all about.
eom
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 06:53 PM
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33. Less hectoring, more educating then.
Making a case, and there is one, rather than tossing around caps and words like "idiotic" and "ashamed," might not get up people's noses.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 07:50 PM
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34. Read this, tell me who are the Holocaust deniers here - 21 million deaths
Western Prosperity Based on the Destruction of Africa


Today, Africa is the most war-torn continent in the world. Over the past fifteen years, thirty-two of the fifty-three African countries experienced violent conflict. During the cold war years (1950-1989), the U.S. sent $1.5 billion in arms and training to Africa thus setting the stage for the current round of conflicts. From 1991-1995 the U.S. increased the amount of weapons and other military assistance to fifty of the total fifty-three African countries. Over the years these U.S. funded wars have been responsible for the deaths of millions of Africans, and the subsequent displacement, disease, and starvation of many millions more.

<snip>


Loans provided by the International Monetary Fund, World Bank and G8 have traditionally included strategies known as Structural Adjustment Programs (SAPs) which came in to effect in Africa in 1980. SAPs require that governments reduce public spending (especially on health, education and food/storage) in order to pay Western Banks. They must also increase exports of raw materials to the West, encourage foreign investment and privatize state enterprises. Instead of reducing the debt, since 1980 SAPs have increased African debt by 500 percent, creating a domino effect of disasters (prolonged famine, conflict, abject poverty, environmental exploitation) linked to an estimated 21 million deaths and, in the process, transferring hundreds of billion dollars to the West.

<snip>


Since the story was first published in October 2002, 1.5 million more people have died in the Congo War bringing the total up to a shocking four million since 1998. This is a war foisted on the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC — the richest country in Africa) by the U.S. through its proxies Rwanda and Uganda, who have occupied the country, stolen its abundant natural wealth, and sent it to the West. A peace agreement signed in September 2002 in which Rwanda and Uganda agreed to withdraw, is not working since Uganda has reoccupied parts of the eastern Congo and Rwanda keeps raiding the country. Recently, Rwandan troops burnt down thousands of homes in the eastern Congo. Uganda has armed two ethnic groups, the Hema and Lendu in Ituri province and encouraged them to fight resulting in 11,400 deaths so far; the two groups have laid siege to the provincial capital, Bunia, where bloody massacres continue. This shows the extent to which the U.S. will go to plunder Africa.

<snip>

My article shows how Western prosperity is based on the destruction of Africa. The story details the U.S. imperial design for Africa, which involves fostering wars and destroying economies in order to plunder natural riches. The U.S. has created a holocaust in Africa by backing wars and imposing structural adjustment programs, which have allowed it to loot hundreds of billions of dollars from the continent.

http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2004/10.htm...


Thanks chlamor


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