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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:26 PM
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Anyone with a clear understanding of the PNAC knows that the war is a ruse
It's as simple as that.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:30 PM
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1. yep : bush'd exit strategy for iraq: through iran! the onion's headline
almost fooled again this morning.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:31 PM
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2. they are still
in a state of disbelief or denial. They are just waiting for the chance to go to Syria or Iran (or to decide in which order). Bushit and all the wingers crowing that democracy is on the rise do to his actions is a fable.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:32 PM
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3. Agree completely. This is the most obvious evidence.
All the lies and wars follow naturally from their plan - US world domination - and the people involved.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:02 PM
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7. PNAC's "goal" of US domination is a ruse, too
The America-America-America talk is just another layer of the onion. These people have allegiance to no country but themselves, to no class but the ruling class.

Call them the international elite, the corporate elite, the kleptocrats... whatever. The flag-waving is just meant as a distraction.

Ignore their stated aims, and look at the effects of their actions. They're putting America through the shredder, and divvying up the pieces amongst themselves.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 07:02 AM
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10. Absolutely right

These people are perfectly content to feed off the rotting carcass of this country all the while proclaiming their love for it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:35 PM
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4. Exactly
I've tried telling some people about PNAC but they either ignore it or look at me weird and go "what's that"? I gave them two reliable websites (newamericancentury.org and pnac.info) and they call them "propoganda" websites. :eyes: It's all abunch of bs. Can we please get someone (Germany maybe) to save us pleaseeeeee?
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:40 PM
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5. I've talked to Democrats who look at me as if I'm nuts when I mention
PNAC

I'm talking about Democrats on their Dem Town Committees. I have come to the conclusion that unless people hear something through the MSM in a pretty direct fashion nothing else sticks.

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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 10:34 PM
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6. Its seems strange that people dont believe you
in my case i tell people that colloidal silver kills lung infections and more. I've been keeping my wife alive for 6 yrs with it, but no one believes me. I think its a conditioning thing, i'm not a MD ect.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 11:06 PM
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8. If you don't mind, I'll spell some of it out
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 11:08 PM by bigtree
In September 2000, the PNAC drafted a report entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century." http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

The conservative foundation- funded report was authored by Bill Kristol, Bruce Jackson, Gary Schmitt, John Bolton and others. Bolton, now Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security, and nominated by Bush for U.N. mbassador, was Senior Vice President of the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

The report called for: ". . . significant, separate allocation of forces and budgetary resources over the next two decades for missile defense," and claimed that despite the "residue of investments first made in the mid- and late 1980s, over the past decade, the pace of innovation within the Pentagon had slowed measurably." Also that, "without the driving challenge of the Soviet military threat, efforts at innovation had lacked urgency."

The PNAC report asserted that "while long-range precision strikes will certainly play an increasingly large role in U.S. military operations, American forces must remain deployed abroad, in large numbers for decades and that U.S. forces will continue to operate many, if not most, of today's weapons systems for a decade or more."

The PNAC document encouraged the military to "develop and deploy global missile defenses to defend the American homeland and American allies, and to provide a secure basis for U.S. power projection around the world."

The paper claimed that, "Potential rivals such as China were anxious to exploit these technologies broadly, while adversaries like Iran, Iraq and North Korea were rushing to develop ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons as a deterrent to American intervention in regions they sought to dominate. Also that, information and other new technologies – as well as widespread technological and weapons proliferation – were creating a ‘dynamic' that might threaten America's ability to exercise its ‘dominant' military power."

In reference to the nation's nuclear forces, the PNAC document asserted that, " reconfiguring its nuclear force, the United States also must counteract the effects of the proliferation of ballistic missiles and weapons of mass destruction that may soon allow lesser states to deter U.S. military action by threatening U.S. allies and the American homeland itself."

"The (Clinton) administration's stewardship of the nation's deterrent capability has been described by Congress as "erosion by design," the group chided.

The authors further warned that, "U.S. nuclear force planning and related arms control policies must take account of a larger set of variables than in the past, including the growing number of small nuclear arsenals –from North Korea to Pakistan to, perhaps soon, Iran and Iraq – and a modernized and expanded Chinese nuclear force."

In addition, they counseled, "there may be a need to develop a new family of nuclear weapons designed to address new sets of military requirements, such as would be required in targeting the very deep underground, hardened bunkers that are being built by many of our potential adversaries."

The PNAC ‘Rebuilding America' report was used after the Sept. 11th terrorist attacks to draft the 2002 document entitled "The National Security Strategy of the United States," which for the first time in the nation's history advocated "preemptive" attacks to prevent the emergence of opponents the administration considered a threat to its political and economic interests. http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss.html

It states that ". . . we will not hesitate to act alone, if necessary, to exercise our right of self-defense by acting preemptively against such terrorists, to prevent them from doing harm against our people and our country." And that, "To forestall or prevent such hostile acts by our adversaries, the United States will, if necessary, act preemptively."

This military industry band of executives promoted the view, in and outside of the White House that, " must be prepared to stop rogue states and their terrorist clients before they are able to threaten or use weapons of mass destruction against the United States and our allies and friends. . . We must deter and defend against the threat before it is unleashed."

‘Peace through strength; big kid on the block,' is a posture which is more appropriately used to counter threats by nations; not threats by rouge individuals with no known base of operations.

Their strategy asserts that "The United States has long maintained the option of preemptive actions to counter a sufficient threat to our national security. The greater the threat, the greater is the risk of inaction - and the more compelling the case for taking anticipatory action to defend ourselves, even if uncertainty remains as to the time and place of the enemy's attack."

So their plan is to attack whomever, whenever they feel our security is threatened, no matter if the nature and prevalence of the attack is uncertain.

The 2002 PNAC document is a mirrored synopsis of the Bush administration's foreign policy today. President Bush is projecting a domineering image of the United States around the world which has provoked lesser equipped countries to desperate, unconventional defenses; or resigned them to a humiliating surrender to our rape of their lands, their resources and their communities.

President Bush intends for there to be more conquest - like in Iraq - as the United States exercises its military force around the world; our mandate, our justification, presumably inherent in the mere possession of our instruments of destruction.

We are unleashing a new, unnecessary fear between the nations of the world as we dissolve decades of firm understandings about an America power which was to be guileless in its unassailable defenses. The falseness of our diplomacy is revealed in our scramble for ‘useable', tactical nuclear missiles, new weapons systems, and our new justifications for their use.

Our folly is evident in the rejection of our ambitions by even the closest of our allies, as we reject all entreaties to moderate our manufactured mandate to conquer. Isolation is enveloping our nation like the warming of the atmosphere and the creeping melt of our planet's ancient glaciers.
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CindyDale Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 06:12 AM
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9. Important to look at how PNAC was funded (arms and oil money)
http://www.mediatransparency.org/search_results/info_on_any_recipient.php?recipientID=258

Look down to year 2000 and before and over to the comments column to see the funds. The foundations that funded PNAC are linked to arms and oil industries. They've financed numerous other projects as well. You can click on the links to the foundations to see more about them.

PNAC was just hacks working for these foundations. When they decide to do something else, they will hire more hacks to write excuses for them.
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