The LAST thing bush wants in the ME is democracy. WHY do so many

Americans NOT get this??? It's just common sense!

1. The vast majority of the citizens in the ME nations hate America.

2. If those citizens get to vote in their own choice of leaders, the very last leaders they'd vote in would be any who are pro-American. The leaders voted in would be ANTI-American.

3. The LAST thing bush wants are ANTI-American governments in the ME or Latin America, especially nations sitting on rare & coveted natural resources.

4. Because bush doesn't want any ANTI-American governments in the ME, he doesn't want democracy in the ME.

He's proved this himself already with Turkey. And France. And even Canada. He calls Turkey a "great democracy" (laf) but when Turkey democratically obeyed the will of 98% of its citizens and refused to join bush's "coalition", bush told the Turkish govt it should have IGNORED that 98%. Powell told the Turkish military they should have just IGNORED the Turkish government.

France. The vast majority of the French opposed bush's invasion, and the French government obeyed that vast will of its own people and said no. And we all know how bush felt about France's democracy then.

Canada, same thing. bush threatened "payback" against Canada because the govt said no to bush's invasion, as the vast majority of Canadians opposed the invasion.

bush only wants a "democracy" that is pro-American and asks "how high?" when he says "jump", and it isn't just bush; America has been this way for decades and it's VERY WELL KNOWN by the rest of the world.

How many democratically elected governments has America overthrown, and installed rightwing dictatorships? Several.

So how come the world knows bush's "spreading democracy" is pure crap & in fact just what he DOESN'T want to do, yet most Americans don't see that?

it's not about truth

Then Bush will get his draft, his war and a chance to control all the oil fields?

understand this?

If YOU were the leader of a nation, and the other 9 nations on your planet were full of people who hated your guts and hated your nation, would YOU want them to have a democracy so they can elect leaders who also hate you and hate your leaders, or would you want those other 9 nations to have leaders who were pro-you and pro-your nation?

Obviously you want the pro-you leaders. And you can't get pro-you leaders by allowing the people of the other 9 nations to have democracy coz if you do they WILL NOT vote in pro-you leaders.

It's so damn simple and common sense that I just dunno why most Americans can't figure it out by themselves, ya know?

That is it, isn't it.

"I can't do anything about it, and it can't be that bad because there aren't millions of people in the streets doing something about it, so it must just be me and my over-imagination, I don't want to look like a fool and it's not affecting me personally right now so best I just keep my head down and go along to get along and I don't want to know because I don't want it to be true and I don't want to think of my country in such a light and I feel better if I don't think about any of it at all".

"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier - just so long I'm the dictator."
--GWB, December 18, 2000 (CNN Transcript)

Americans of civil liberties and controlling the media etc.

Because when he implements all the policies he wants implemented, the vast majority of Americans are going to hit the roof in outrage. It shouldn't take very long for Americans to start realizing what an incredibly bad thing for them the bankruptcy bill is. Even bush's NCLB is now pretty widely seen as a total FUBAR and a slew of states want out of it entirely.

If his privatization of SS gets pushed thru, it'll take a few years, my estimate is 10-15 years down the road, but it'll wake people up big time when it does hit.

The republican Party is doing everything by the book. Just looking at what Pinochet's policies it's very obvious the identical policies are being forced -or attempting to be forced- on us. Not "some similarities" but IDENTICAL. There's a reason so many people (mostly outside the US) see bush as another Hitler. They're not referring to Hitler's genocides and world wars, as many Americans suppose. They're referring to his national policies, the way Hitler took more & more power for the government, and all through legal means by changing laws and executive orders and Patriot Acts and media control and control of the judges.

The neocons call their version a "benign dictatorship"; the "strict father" crap. Unfortunately, that's how Hitler saw his version, too. And even without Hitler's genocides and world wars, a dictatorship is a dictatorship and I DON'T WANT ONE!!! :cry:

none of those messy voting booths to manage.

Easier, softer way, georgie. Always.

is how Bush is going against forty years of American policy to destabilize countries, to now demanding that they organize and legitimize AFTER they realize what dirty crooks we are.

Egads! The next thing dumb Bush will do is help arm them!

uninterested in history or a combination thereof. Many Amerikans refuse to view Amerika in any way that is not aligned with the idea that Amerika is good and great. Amerikan schools and the Whore Media do not teach facts but nationalistic propaganda.

He's doing as he always does; propaganda-speak for American consumption.

He KNOWS if the ME had democracy every last one of those nations, especially Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, would vote in vehemently, rabidly ANTI-American governments.

mistake, so he expands on it by working out of plan and, thus, each folowing decision might make him look good in the short-run, but will cost America dearly in the long-run.

It appears the people have spoken (as per the massive, pro-Syria rallies a few days ago) - they want Syria to maintain its influence and presence in the country.

In the 80's, Beirut became synonymous with war and bloodshed. The Lebanese know what's at stake...

Our neighbors for several years in Germany lived through Hitler's regime. They said it built up so gradually, all with nationalism and huge pride "we're the best, rahrahrah!) and the demonization of all non-Germans, and the "they all want to kill us, we must protect ourselves" rhetoric. By the time they realized -the 2 of them- they couldn't have done anything about it, if they'd tried they'd have been punished, and they just wanted to do the "if you don't acknowledge it, it's not happening" thing.

Which really frightens me, because we're so into that self-deception here in America. :(

we would have attacked Saudia Arabia after 911.

bush wants a democracy in Pakistan? Actually neither do I with them having that opinion, lol! They might elect OBL himself. :D

if BushCo has their way, we'll never leave . . . Iraq is our new base of operations in the region . . . that's what was intended right from the get-go . . . it's one of the main reasons we invaded . . . and why we're building permanent bases, a huge embassy, a new (and bigger) prison, etc. . . the ONLY way the US can control what happens in Iraq is to stay there permanently, and that's exactly what we intend to do . . . it's also a good jumping off point for whatever we have planned for Syria and Iran . . .