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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 05:43 PM Original message |
Let re-framing begin. Time to rip Christian out of the cold clammy |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Using 'Leviticans' as a derogatory term |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Where in the essay is Levitican a derogatory term? |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. It sounded like it was meant to mean "legalistic", a common criticism |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 11:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. How 'bout neo-Pharisees? n/t |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:04 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Or perhaps Pharisee-Wannabes. Actually I think you're on to something |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. actually I think Philistines is the best moniker. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. But the Philistines being the enemy of Jews did not troll the Old |
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checks-n-balances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. OK, then, how about Leviathans? n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. So let's reframe this: |
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checks-n-balances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Good point. They've forgotten all about Matthew 28, The Last Judgment |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. The "grace vs. works" controversy has been raging since Martin Luther. |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. So why the hatred against Gays? |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Phelp's is referring to the largely Protestant belief that good |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Phelps knows about as much about Christianity |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. well, Jesus was Jew and never claimed otherwise. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Although you points are interesting they don't reframe "Christian". |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Not trying to reframe a damn thing |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. But there are no irrefutable facts beause belief is a matter of |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. well my friend |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Except for your statement that Paul never met Jesus nothing |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Is it not a fact that Jesus was Jew? |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Jesus did indeed say something profound about Gentiles! |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yes and it was Paul who started the religion of Christianity and not Jesus |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. The reason I start this thread about "reframing" the word Christian |
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Jesus Saves (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. You're exactly right |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. "On occasion people ask me what it is I have against Christianity" |
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Jesus Saves (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Yep |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. or: don't tell me you're a Christian, let me figure it out for myself. n/t |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Gee are you being sarcastic. No let me figure that out for myself nt |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Or the beatitudes. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Strange isn't how ignoring this itty-bitty sermon says so much about |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. "God's Politics" by Jim Wallis |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. certainly the GOP doesn't show much concern for usury, |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-11-05 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
15. According to Leviticus... |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
31. whacko fundie cult followers works for me |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:43 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. "I refuse to use the word “fundamentalist,” or any of its variations, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:39 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. 3, 2, 1... See ya! |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:52 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Then Christ is a Liberal because he re-framed Judaism. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:53 AM Response to Reply #39 |
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