Now Bush wants to take away food from poor families, 300,000 people.

Congress Mulls Cutting Food Aid to Poor

Associated Press
March 12, 2005, 8:53 AM EST

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ats-ap_us12mar12,0,5597362.story?coll=ny-leadnationalnews-headlines

WASHINGTON -- Cuts in food programs for the poor are getting support in Congress as an alternative to President Bush's idea of slicing billions of dollars from the payments that go to large farm operations.

>>>>Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., said the $36 billion food stamp program is a good place to look for savings.

"There's not the waste, fraud and abuse in food stamps that we used to see. ... That number is down to a little over 6 percent now," he said. "But there is a way, just by utilizing the president's numbers, that we can come up with a significant number there."

Bush is proposing to withdraw food stamps for certain families already receiving other government assistance. The administration estimates that plan would remove more than 300,000 people from the rolls and save $113 million annually.


Typical republican imperialism. These poor folks should be fine, say these cretins who have fattened themselves on our dime. Here's hoping they choke on this proposal.

(corporate) farmers! :eyes:

Quit complaining. ;-)

:crazy:

Taking food from the poor. All those churches that told their parishioners that Bush is a man of God and they should cast their votes for him should be ashamed. He is anything but a man of God.

And maybe they'll think for themselves. I doubt it. They'll fall in line, accept poverty as "god's punishment", and accept whatever Bush does.

Can't have that! :eyes:

tell me that whenever someone is in poverty it's because they're lazy and sit on their butts and should just go to college. :argh:

Bush then guts the entire program. He is then in a position to give many more billions of dollars to the Faith-based organizations that have sworn allegiance to him and the GOP to do the job of giving "hand-outs" to the poor people that THEY choose to give to.

The poor people who will have to go to these churches etc for help will be required to accept Jesus as their Savior and pledge their lives to God and anti-abortion and unequal rights for gay people just to get a crust of bread and a can of beans.

Wonder why you don't hear any screaming about this new initiative to take away Food Stamps from the thousands of Bush-supporting red voters
who depend on this help? Because they have been assured that THEY will still get help from their churches.

Meanwhile, a lot of corrupt preachers are making millions on the deal. Talk about "oil for food," this is "Republican votes for food."

of the Monthy Python song:
He stole from the poor
He gave to the rich
Stupid bitch

http://www.blakeneymanor.com/moore.html

Oh, and welcome to DU.

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Welcome to DU.

Actually he said he didn't know that there were kids in Texas that were going to bed hungry. :eyes: Yeah saving $113 million annually, that'll be a dent in the HUGH deficit caused by his Tax Bonus' for the Greedy Pigs and the war profits reaped by his Corporate bidness buds. Robin Hood in reverse. How do the rich a$$holes in this Country sleep knowing how many are suffering so they can keep more of their money in their already overstuffed pockets? Disgusting! :puke:

That is what the headline should be in the MSM.

Once again the pubs frame the issue as being about waste, fraud and abuse. We can't continue to play their game and use their words.

This is about making the poorest among us beg for food. Anyone remember stories of the elderly eating dog food? I haven't heard any for a while but if this passes, we will.

that should be one of ours that our leaders should use. Good one! I really think this is so disgusting!

The Repub Party should not be permitted to continue to slide on these harmful issues. Bush does nothing without his Repub cohorts.

As usual, I'm confused.

Doesn't it say that "...Bush's idea {involves} slicing billions of dollars from the payments that go to large farm operations" and it's Republicans in Congress who are suggesting the cuts to food stamps as an alternative? Based on this story, wouldn't it be more appropriate to blame congressional Repubs than the White House for this particular suggested atrocity? Or am I missing something?

didn't like that (due to the immense lobbying power/political contributions of agri-business)...I highly doubt Bush expected them to. Political games. But as the article says, Bush came up with this oh-so-compassionate alternative:

"Bush is proposing to withdraw food stamps for certain families already receiving other government assistance. The administration estimates that plan would remove more than 300,000 people from the rolls and save $113 million annually."

Keep in mind, given the size of the budget, $113 million is NOT a whole lot of money, and could have been taken from any number of programs.
Also, the proposed limits on farm subsidies were a trade issue in a larger sense - our so-called 'free trade' is based on the fact that we subsidize farmers so we can afford to sell US crops cheaper to other countries. Poorer countries can't afford to subsidize their farmers, even though their labor is cheaper they still can't compete with US in a lot of agriculture trade.

is look at what he's cutting and what he's for. When has he ever made cuts to oil companies? Bank companies? Etc?

estimates that plan would remove more than 300,000 people from the rolls."

This was possibly the idea of Eric Bost, the Agriculture Dept's. undersecretary for food who was cited in the article

Senior Agriculture Official (Bost) Comments Food Banks Providing ''Easy Way Out''- Wednesday, June 23, 2004
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/06/23/national1752EDT0686.DTL

I guess Bush slept or cut class through all his World History classes (if he ever took one). Else he'd remember that Louis XVI's ignorant indifference to abject hunger, while he & his own feasted extravagantly, resulted in you-know-what. This jerk is a combination of King Louis XVI & crazy-assed English King George III. Maybe we should call him King George-Louis.

similarities abound.

Maybe their souls got all mixed up during some reincarnation processes?

was gay!

have riots and a new revolution of 'terrorists' in Amerika.

People tend to riot and protest even more when they have even less in this coutnry... just have to find the level they'll take before they go nuts on this administration.

Anyone have any ideas?

One-third of our federal individual income taxes go to the military.

We need to take some of that back and start taking care of our people!!

all welfare was a states issue instead of a federal issue. However there were problems of local discrimination in those days. I think that is partially what bushie is trying to do - give these issues back to the states. Unfortunately, he does not intend to lower federal taxes if the states take over because he will need his money for his new wars.

"Christian" values? I think not!

oh wait. no it's not. Jesus is crying.

bush is a friggin idiot! x(

The faith based initiatives will pick up the slack. It ain't my plan.

Not that I think that will actually work, and not that I'm less outraged, but I wish only to point out the "logic" that is at work here.

That is indeed the plan. Pare back SS, Food programs, welfare, healthcare, and allow those "christians" to provide these services.

Don't believe it's planned? check out theocracywatch.org

Did I say it ain't my plan?

-Hoot

After all in Texas as governor Bush did have a lot of faith-based programs didn't he and really pushed them? I do think it's their plan to get rid of all the social programs and make people so desperate they will "come to Jesus" and have some type of way to make them join their church to get help before they give them any help. I hope you know what I'm saying and not being confusing.

what a fucking snake.

I expect the next wave of old ladies will be eating insects.

Especially on my grandparents and my grandma who depend on retirement and SS. My grandfather has cancer and thank goodness he has health insurance because that would be SO expensive all the shots, therapy etc. *sigh* How can the church help people with hospital needs?

you food, housing, clothing, medicine. They are going to set you down and pray for a miracle! If the miracle does not come down out of the sky it is your fault for not being worthy!!!!

There are many faith-based organizations who are presently working with the poor who will tell you outright that they do not have enough resources to handle the problems now and things are getting worse. These are the groups that have been out there on the streets for years and know that we need both faith-based-church-supported organizations and government programs.

But somewhere we poor people have pissed this god/jesus fellow off to no end. It seems he has a hard on to hurt the poorest and most destitute amongst us, and is using idiots like the chimp* and it's weakminded followers to accomplish this.
If this shit keeps up i think i'll just crawl away and die somewhere, living like these people want me to sucks.

He's seen to it that there will be so many MORE of us !

Bush's "new math": 2 + 2 = whatever I want it to.

those who have little remain at their gates."

From a March 8 letter opposing Bush's 2006 budget proposal, signed by the leaders of the Episcopal Church, USA; the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America; the Presbyterian Church (USA); the United Church of Christ; and the United Methodist Church.

Fuck THAT!

I'm going to start stealing from the bastards!

Give me some idears.

a Methodist?? I thought he was. :shrug:

that makes them resent every person whose income is below the poverty line? What is it about these people who can't stant to see a Wal Mart cashier healthy and eating well?

Pretty soon after the poor all die off of starvation and minor things that we have the means to easily prevent, they'll come for you. Soon they'll resent the fact that you don't make 100k/year and yet YOU HAVE INTERNET SERVICE!!!

Just wait. Soon we'll have workhouses. They're already bringing back orphanages.

all of us as "Useless Eaters".

She of the "beautiful mind" comment.

(Remember? She did not want to pollute her beautiful mind by watching video of soldiers' bodies being dragged through the streets of Baghdad. Whatta b****!)

No wonder their evil offspring is the way he is.

she said Bush was the "Chosen One" to do all this Iraq mess. :eyes: She was praising him like he was the second coming of Christ.

Congress Mulls Cutting Food Aid to Poor
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=574486

Congress May Cut Food Aid, Not Farm Aid
http://www.wiseeye.com/redirect.aspx?id=26693654&redir=http%3a%2f%2fabcnews.go.com%2fPolitics%2fwireStory%3fid%3d573234

oh well, these are his compassionate christian values.

should increase their charitable giving by 1 percent. I think he wants us to to feed the poor since the government isn't going to anymore.

Seems rather an odd coincidence.

You're costing us rich folks far, far too much.

I'm ready for the revolution.

What are we waiting for??

This is the richest country in the fucking world, and we have our own goddamn citizens STARVING and DYING in poverty.
This is beyond immoral.

"Whatsoever you do to the least of my people, you also do unto me."

I guess you could almost say Bush is hurting Jesus Christ himself.

Food stamps don't just help the poor. Some advocates I know in Duluth, used to deal with grocery store clerks who abused people using food stamps by contacting the owner and threatening a food stamp boycott of the store. The economic consequences of the loss of food stamp revenue was enough to get the owners to crack down on the clerks.

This proposal just makes me sick. The food shelves can't keep food stocked already. Employable adults without kids already only get 3 months of food stamps out of 36. Anyone with teen aged kids knows food stamps don't reach til the end of the month. These cuts will seriously hurt those in need.

Compared to what we are paying per day for that fiasco in Iraq??? Are these conservatives nuts?

What a jackass!!! Notice whenever they don't get their way about something they cried fraud??? But when WE do it's "conspericy theories"? :argh:

We already have millions of children who go hungry and live in poverty and he is going to KILL them off by denying food, shelter, and medical care to these children.

300,000 hungry people should knock on the White House door and ask for food.

It just another day in Bush world. Its sad that I can't muster any anger for Bush's policies anymore but I expect Bush to do this sort of nonsense. I'm just numb to it all.

I fear that the condition of the country is going to have hit rock bottom before the American people and Congress wake up.

I hate to say it, but I told you so..... I KNEW this was going to happen when George the Vulgar stole the election in 2000. I just didn't know how soon.

Cuts to Food programs
Cuts to Housing for the low income
Cuts to medicaid
No more bankruptcy
Strong attempts to kill SS
No minimum wage increase
No overtime pay
No class action lawsuits
Reauthorized "Welfare Reform Program" for single mothers/fathers
Jobs leave workers in their exhaust fumes
Ruined Medicare
Skyrocketing Healthcare
No cheap drugs
No redress of grievances
NO SHIT.....
Etc.

Instead: BILLIONS spent on military budget; and tax cuts for the wealthy..

Whadda country :(

end.

If we could only stop feeding them and let them die. They are after all brain dead.

At what point will they wake up? Face it, they won't. It's killing others. And this is NO friggen new surprise.

I guess I should go anticipate what's next, but I'm just not evil enough to guess.

food stamps, we used to see alot more fraud. People would come into the store buy a couple of things, use the change for things like smokes and alcohol. I know there are more people that use them that need them, as opposed to those who abuse the system, but it really pisses me off when I see them buying "luxury" food items like lobsters and fillet Mignon when I can't even afford to buy stuff like that, and then they drive off in brand new suburban suv's.(I've seen it personally) But I think the new food stamp system done on plastic instead of paper stamps is making a huge difference. There is no change, the amount gets deducted from their card. Though, where I work we had to stop taking stamps when they switched to the new system, because we would have had to upgrade our credit card system and that was something like $300 to do so, and no incentives from the CC companies or the government to switch to the new system.

he cut out funding for so many social programs that people were desperate. This is despicable. :argh: This group needs to be exposed for the liars that they are and soon or else we will all be living in a cardboard box.

may not have been so far out as it seemed back in 2000...another phase of the neo-fascists slow plan of incremental eugenics has just been kicked in. Now you know why the seed companies have genetically altered seeds so that you can't try to grow your own food.