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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:29 PM
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Expect "major CNN / Fox made up news stories".... the issue is Peak Oil !!
Ask a politician why if our country knew of this back in the 70's (see Jimmy Carters speeches and M King Hubbards work) why did the US fail to prepare the country?

Why did they no pursue "alternative energy" policies?

Why are they NOT talking about it today?

WHy are they fighting about Soc Sec payouts in 50 yrs...when OIL will no longer be here in 30-35 years.?

Why did they pursue a "plan of oil conquest" which put "our lives in danger"?


The media's job right now is to avoid ANY serious discussion of the worlds largest problem. Peak Oil

We have to start organizing arounf this issue NOW.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:32 PM
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1. Why?
Corporate GREED :(
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:33 PM
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2. the ramifications of NO actions now are "life threatening" for all of us
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:38 PM
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3. Peak oil is a major issue
I have been aware of the peak oil crisis and the consequences to our country after I read James Howard Kunstler's book, "The Geography of Nowhere." His website is www.kunstler.com. He gives great insight about the futureless built environment that we continue to live in and what we need to do to change our ways once the peak oil crisis hits.

He also attacks politicians for not discussing the issue. In his weekly online column, he did this last week (http://www.kunstler.com/mags_diary13.html). Here is a quote.

"Somebody ought to bring this to the Democrats' attention. America has a problem bigger than social security, or the price of prescription drugs, or gay marriage. America is heading into a situation in which it will no longer have an economy. The Republicans at least have an excuse for their willful blindness -- they've already taken the position that the life of extreme car-dependency and everything it implies is not negotiable. They are committed to defending that position, no matter how foolish it may be.

The Republicans will certainly be disgraced by the coming vicissitudes that they allowed the nation to sleepwalk into. But the Democrats may have less credibility in the future because they were not obligated to defend a foolish status quo, and they did anyway.

I wonder if Howard Dean ever thinks about these things."

I think that in 2008, energy independence is the issue that could get the Democrats back in power. It will be clear by then that the Republicans solution to the oil crisis is pre-emptive war while the Democrats want to fund renewable energy, which would have the aded bonus of providing jobs for Americans.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:40 PM
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4. we need Howard Dean to bring in "scinetists" and experts to share what the
hell is coming.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:45 PM
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5. Any one who wants to read about "Peak Oil" should check this...
Edited on Sat Mar-12-05 12:46 PM by Up2Late
...web site out. Tons of great info, and the CIA keeps trying to shut the website down (via electronic espionage)

<http://www.fromthewilderness.com/>

or this mirror if the above site is down

<http://www.copvcia.com/>:evilgrin:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:48 PM
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6. Ruppert connect the dots with 911...but you can also go to many many other
web sites which factually deal with the matter and alernative resorce challenges.
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 12:50 PM
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7. Frame it right, and this can be our "family values" issue.
When the oil runs out, the world economy will be a mess, and our children and grandchildren will be struggling to develop an alternative to oil while at the same time stuggling to get by. You can guess which of those struggles will take priority.

Republicans talk about family values by working to save out children from abortion and pornography and gay marriages. We can turn the tables on them, and talk about saving our children from something far worse.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:03 PM
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8. Yea something far worse ...
like Nuclear war over this bullshit. Follow the war on terror and you see just what our military has become ... a global oil protection service. Anti-terrorism and the protection, securement of oil supplies are closely related. The militarization of our foreign energy policy. Sad but true. :(
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:16 PM
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9. Reagan/Bush derailed Carter's policies and vision.
Edited on Sat Mar-12-05 01:18 PM by Old and In the Way
With the formation of OPEC and the rise of Islamic fundementalism in the ME, Carter could see that our oil dependency was an achilles heal to our national security. He made a Dept of Energy a cabinet level position, he talked up conservation, and put solar panels on the WH.

Reagan/Bush (well, Bush really) did the bidding of Big Oil. They dismantled the DOE, took down the panels, stopped the dialogue on conservation by negotiating cheaper oil with the Sauds. He, and his buds, have made billions keeping us oil dependent. Their so-called "Morning in America" has past and now we are seeing the progression into "Evening in America". The House of Bush and their Republican Congressional majorities are the true war-profiteering traitors to this country.
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