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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 10:39 PM
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Gun terrorism out of control. Repuke solution is comical
murder of judge's husband and mother

gunman opens fire in court killing the judge yesterday

today gunman opens fire AT CHURCH killing 7


In two of the three cases the gunman killed himself, typical of mass shootings including Columbine

How does the Repuke solution of "toughening gun penalties" work if the shooters are BLOWING THEIR OWN BRAINS OUT TOO?
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 10:47 PM
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1. According to the gun nuts we all need to be armed 24/7. Yeah, right!
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 10:52 PM
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2. The gun nuts want anyone to have guns in school, church, everywhere
A tyranny of gunpowder.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:56 AM
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8. Yes and it makes me sick too. Guns make cowards into murderers.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 10:55 PM
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3. The Repuke Solution Does Not Work And...
Things Have Gotten Out Of Control.. Since guns Don't Die And People Do, Doesn't It Follow That Something Should Be Done About The Guns? I Believe In Protecting Our Constitutional Rights But Where Rights Are Concerned There Must Also Be Responsibility. We Can Re-Create A Gun..Not A Person!!
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:53 AM
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6. Indeed so, but the NRA crowd always hides behind the 2nd amendment...
even though it does not confer a right for individuals to own firearms.

When the gun nuts use the term "gun-rights" they must mean the right for a gun to exist, I think, because only the militia have a right to bear arms per the Supreme Court.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:53 AM
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7. Self delete
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 12:54 AM by Conservativesux
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 11:15 PM
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4. "Blowing their own brains out"
Therein lies the problem, same as if they were a car bomber. Once someone no longer cares about their mortality, little can be done to stop them.
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:29 AM
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5. So true!!!!
A gun is just an object. If someone wants to kill...breaking off the leg to a table and beating them to death will do...we can't ban tables or make everything out of that nerf material so no one ever gets hurt or killed or molested or permanently disabled. We have to change the people and ourselves. We have to change the way we think about unacceptable behavior in general.

In days past, if a person committed a crime, their own family would rebuke them and disassociate themselves from them. Now it is different. Kids go to prisons to see murderers....the courts here have even ordered a mother to take her son to the state prison to visit his dad who is in there for sexually abusing and killing an 8 year old boy. She said she didn't want her son to associate with any person of that sort but was ordered to do so.

I agree with the standards of yesterday. If a person chooses to engage in criminal behavior...disassociation from friends and loved ones goes along with it....consequences...that is what we lack. Young people don't see them and we as responsible adults don't enforce them. I mean social consequences not legal ones.

I have told my son that if he decides to become a criminal, I am no longer his mother. I didn't raise a criminal...don't associate with them as friends...don't condone what they do or who they've become and until they decide to become responsible members of society again it will stay that way. He told me that in the past he had thought about what I said when, at a moment of anger or peer pressure he had thought about doing something unlawful and remembered that I meant it and wanted to stay in the family more than commit the act.

It might sound hard but I heard the same thing from my father. He said, "Being born into a family doesn't mean the family will let you stay a member no matter what terrible things you might do...familys have limits." and I have hung on to that all of my life.

Crime is a conscious decision.
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